| Scott Wilhelm |
I was thinking about a Natural Attack build that uses Sneak Attack. It's probably along different line from which you were thinking, but people might find it interesting.
Tengu, Claws
1Ranger1: Freebooter's Bane, Simple & Martial Weapons, Shields, Light and Medium armor, ranger stuff, Dity Fighting, BAB+1
2R1Warpriest1: Aura, Heavy Armor, Lv1 Spells, 2Minor Blessings, Sacred Weapon 1d6, Weapon Focus Claws
3R2W1: Precise Shot, Improved Dirty Trick, BAB+2
So, This character at level 3 gets 3 attacks/round in melee that do 1d6 each, and has Precise Shot. With even 1 level in Ranger, the character can use Wands with Ranger Spells, such as Magic Fang, Gravity Bow, and Strong Jaw. Strong Jaw is a Wand that you wouldn't be able to afford by only level 3, it'll be for later, but when you get it, your Natural Attacks will all do 2d6 Damage. Gravity Bow is only a level 1 Wand, and that will make your Arrows do 2d6 Damage. An Archery feature isn't what you are asking for, but it is a good idea to be well-rounded. You will also be able to use Wands of Cure Light Wounds, and fill in as the party healer.
The ability to buff your neatural attacks is important. The bane of creatures with multiple attacks is creatures with Damage Reduction. The ability to bypass DR cannot be underestimated. With even 1 level in Warpriest, you can cast Weapons Against Evil, which allows your Natural Weapons to bypass the DR of any non-epic, evil creature with DR 5 or under. Then you can get weapon blanch for your arrows, which also can so Blunt damage.
I love putting together clever, complex combinations of Feats and Class Abilities that have devastating effects, but they way I've always been most helpful to my party has always been by being flexiblle and well-prepared: being effective at every range, carrying blunt, slashing, and piercing weapons, packing cleats in case the ground gets slippery, things like that.
4R2W1Ninja1: Poison, Sneak Attack 1d6, Ability+1
You can use Dirty Tricks to make your opponents Blind, then that locks in Sneak Attack. If your opponent has Blind Fighting, Blindsense, or Blind Sight, you can make him Deaf, too. Acquire a Wand of Negate Aroma--also a Level 1 Ranger Spell--and you will be Inosmible to creatures with the Scent Ability.
5R2W1N2: Vanishing Trick, Feat, BAB+3
Turn Invisible as a Swift Action, denying your enemies their Dex Mods to AC, you get your Sneak Attack Damage.
Another idea would be to take a level in something like Arcanist so you can use Wands of Scorching Ray and gain the Arcane Exploit Dimensional Hop. With Dimensional Hop, you can do a short range tactical teleport that doesn't disorient you, so you can more easily achieve Flanking. Scorching Ray is a Ranged Touch Attack Spell with no saving throw that does 4d6 Damage. If used while Vanished, that's a Ranged Touch Attack vs. Flatfooted AC with no Saving Throw that does 4d6 + your Sneak Attack Damage! That just makes me smile.
I was also thinking that you might take 3-4 levels in Monk, Drunken Quinngong Master, endlessly replenishing your Ki by Drinking, perhaps as a Swift Action after taking the Potion Glutton Feat, and casting Scorching Ray as a Monk Ability instead of as a Wand.
Upgrading Improved Dirty Trick to Quick, Great dirty trick mostly involves upping your BAB to +6. If you take some levels in Slayer, especially with the Bounty Hunter Archetype, your BAB will go up at full speed, your SAD will go up, and you will gain a special Dirty Trick ability.
You might acquire more natural attacks. A Helm of the Mammoth Lord will give you a Gore Attack. A level in White Haired Witch will give you a Hair Attack, although some GM might give you static about Tengus having Feather, not Hair, so being unable to use the White Hair Ability. Then, taking Weapon Focus on these attacks, you gain your Sacred Weapon Damage on them.
| benaji |
I was thinking about a Natural Attack build that uses Sneak Attack. It's probably along different line from which you were thinking, but people might find it interesting.
Tengu, Claws
1Ranger1: Freebooter's Bane, Simple & Martial Weapons, Shields, Light and Medium armor, ranger stuff, Dity Fighting, BAB+1
2R1Warpriest1: Aura, Heavy Armor, Lv1 Spells, 2Minor Blessings, Sacred Weapon 1d6, Weapon Focus Claws
3R2W1: Precise Shot, Improved Dirty Trick, BAB+2So, This character at level 3 gets 3 attacks/round in melee that do 1d6 each, and has Precise Shot. With even 1 level in Ranger, the character can use Wands with Ranger Spells, such as Magic Fang, Gravity Bow, and Strong Jaw. Strong Jaw is a Wand that you wouldn't be able to afford by only level 3, it'll be for later, but when you get it, your Natural Attacks will all do 2d6 Damage. Gravity Bow is only a level 1 Wand, and that will make your Arrows do 2d6 Damage. An Archery feature isn't what you are asking for, but it is a good idea to be well-rounded. You will also be able to use Wands of Cure Light Wounds, and fill in as the party healer.
The ability to buff your neatural attacks is important. The bane of creatures with multiple attacks is creatures with Damage Reduction. The ability to bypass DR cannot be underestimated. With even 1 level in Warpriest, you can cast Weapons Against Evil, which allows your Natural Weapons to bypass the DR of any non-epic, evil creature with DR 5 or under. Then you can get weapon blanch for your arrows, which also can so Blunt damage.
I love putting together clever, complex combinations of Feats and Class Abilities that have devastating effects, but they way I've always been most helpful to my party has always been by being flexiblle and well-prepared: being effective at every range, carrying blunt, slashing, and piercing weapons, packing cleats in case the ground gets slippery, things like that.
4R2W1Ninja1: Poison, Sneak Attack 1d6, Ability+1
You can use Dirty...
im not understanding dirty fighting, how does that work/help? so your dipping war priest and ranger to get divine and arcane spells, cool.
i find in my groups i cant be support as the fighters are often sub-optimal or down right clownish in build and consume far to much "support".
Im still deciding on bleeding rogue talent, but i moved dragon style to lvl 3 as charging is impossible in PFS without it, and found the charger trait so ill be able to charge 80 feet in difficult terrain at lvl 3 with 1 free retaliate at 1.5xstr/round :D
| Scott Wilhelm |
im not understanding dirty fighting, how does that work/help? so your dipping war priest and ranger to get divine and arcane spells, cool.
I like to lock in Sneak Attack Damage by Blinding opponents with the Dirty Trick Combat Maneuver, taking all 3: Improved, Quick, and Greater dirty trick. The Dirty Fighting Feat can serve as a prerequisite instead of Combat Expertise. Also, it gives a +2 to your CMB check for when you are Flanking your opponent.
Dirty Fighting, Archives of Nethys
The official rules source of the Feat is the Dirty Tactics Toolbox pg. 14, according to the Archives'.
| benaji |
The Dirty Fighting Feat can serve as a prerequisite instead of Combat Expertise. Also, it gives a +2 to your CMB check for when you are Flanking your opponent.
Dirty Fighting, Archives of Nethys
The official rules source of the Feat is the Dirty Tactics Toolbox pg. 14, according to the Archives'.
Oh cool, while it doesn't help this character it helps my trip character who just hit lvl 6 and had to waste a feat on combat expertise!
I'm just not up on all the new feats and options, I'm experiencedoing at the game just not the newer stuff.