PFS Legal Wayang Bloodrager


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Only recently noticed wayangs are pfs legal, so i figured I'd make a build based on one. Here's what I have so far.
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Wayang: Bloodrager Urban Bloodrager Bloodrider (Shadow Bloodline) -“Archery style"
Scion of Shadows: Humanoid (Wayang), Outsider (Native), 50% miss chance in dim light. Replaces Light and Dark & Shadow Resistance.
Shadow Speaker: +2 insight to any roll, 3/day. Replaces Shadow Magic.
Standard archery Feats.
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Before we go into advice on how best to build this character, I was hoping I could clear up a few things, if anyone knows:
1) Bloodragers have the option to exchange their 1st level power for a familiar, is this PFS legal and can I take it with the shadow bloodline? (other bloodlines gain familiars that reflect their bloodline when taking this)
2) Can I have both a wolf and a familiar, or are they both combat pets so its a PFS no-no?
3) Are boars PFS legal companions?
4) Escape Route while sharing a space with your mount or familiar, immune to movement AoO in PFS?
5) If i gain an animal companion from a different source, and choose not to take the bloodrider archetype, do i need to do anything special to make it function as a mount?

Scarab Sages

1) Where did you get this idea? I'm not aware of that being the case from anywhere. If it's from a 3rd-party source, it goes without saying it's Society-illegal (not saying that makes me happy, just the facts), but if there is some Paizo source that makes this possible, the Additional Resources page will tell you all you need to know.

2) I believe that technically, you CAN have multiple such companions who are combat-capable, but if you do, only one of them may get involved in combat.

3) See the link above (and Bookmark it while you're there).

4) Off-hand, I do not know.

5) It depends on specifics - the new companion has to be capable of serving as a mount. If you're a Wayang, that first of all means it must be Medium-sized (maybe there's a feat that lets Small characters ride larger-than-normal mounts, but don't take my word for it), and beyond that, many companions are obviously unfit for riding (whereas others are sketchy - a pony? Of course. A dire bat? Maybe. An ape? Good for piggyback rides, maybe, but not mounted combat. A giant spider after their 4th-level size increase? Really sketchy, but not wholly inconceivable).

6) No, actually.

7) Yes, but you take steep penalties doing so without the Mounted Archery feat (and it only halves them).


1) I thought the bloodline familiars were pretty well known, they're from the familiar folio. But that was before BoS and the shadow bloodline was introduced (i think, dont quote me). The issue is that although theres no prequisite of having those bloodlines, the extra abilities gained by the familiars are based on those bloodlines. (Plus, i dont yet own Familiar Folio, so I can't check exactly which pages the information is on)

2) Will that hold up in PFS? (Just like to be sure!)

3) I obviously know of the additional resources, but i dont know from where the boar originates, is it CRB? The suggestion of riding a boar at level 8 comes from the bloodrider archetype, and I checked the additional resources prior to posting, but it didnt mention it as far as i could see. (other than to say the archetype was legal, just thought I ought to check) (thanks for the suggestion of bookmarking it, but ive actually recently redownloaded the updated pdf about a week ago) Update: Yep, managed to find it, it is from the CRB, so its all good.

4) Anyone else know?

5) Yeah i get the basic premise of riding an animal one size larger, i just didnt know whether a mount had to have special training to be used as such.

6/7) Oh i dont think you take any penalties if you're not making your mound take a double move (link to source would be great if i'm wrong) here's all i could find:

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You can use ranged weapons while your mount is taking a double move, but at a –4 penalty on the attack roll. You can use ranged weapons while your mount is running (quadruple speed) at a –8 penalty. In either case, you make the attack roll when your mount has completed half its movement. You can make a full attack with a ranged weapon while your mount is moving. Likewise, you can take move actions normally.

And yes I deleted the post that asked these last two questions as soon as i checked the weapon entries, thanks though! :)

Grand Lodge

Without answering the rest of the questions the answer to 4 is yes, but no one likes it when you do it. I got so sick and tired of people commenting on it that I retrained out of it.


claudekennilol wrote:
Without answering the rest of the questions the answer to 4 is yes, but no one likes it when you do it. I got so sick and tired of people commenting on it that I retrained out of it.

I thought this would be the case, thanks :)


Familiar Folio wrote:
At 1st level, a sorcerer, bloodrager, or any other character with one of the following bloodlines can choose to gain a bloodline familiar.

Seems like you can't get a familiar with the Shadow bloodline, RAW. It'd be totally reasonable to allow it in a home game, but it won't be in PFS.


Luke Schoppert wrote:
Familiar Folio wrote:
At 1st level, a sorcerer, bloodrager, or any other character with one of the following bloodlines can choose to gain a bloodline familiar.
Seems like you can't get a familiar with the Shadow bloodline, RAW. It'd be totally reasonable to allow it in a home game, but it won't be in PFS.

Good catch, thanks :)

Scarab Sages

I only got my own copy of the Familiar Folio recently, and haven't looked through it much yet.

SillyString wrote:

2) Will that hold up in PFS? (Just like to be sure!)

"Hold up?" Those are specifically Society Play's rules (last time I checked the issue, which was years ago now when I started playing).

Outside of Society play? Technically you could have a Cavalier's Mount, a Hunter's Companion, a Summoner's Eidolon, and a Witch's Improved Familiar all fighting for you at once if you went hog-wild with the class level selection like that - it's just that many DMs wouldn't allow it for similar reasons to why Society doesn't allow it (to say nothing of the weakness relative to level they'd all be suffering under).


I'm Hiding In Your Closet wrote:

I only got my own copy of the Familiar Folio recently, and haven't looked through it much yet.

SillyString wrote:

2) Will that hold up in PFS? (Just like to be sure!)

"Hold up?" Those are specifically Society Play's rules (last time I checked the issue, which was years ago now when I started playing).

Thought i'd double check, just making sure that the "combat capable - but not using" part was specifically pfs ok, so thanks! :)

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