Am I reading Exalted right?


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The Exalted PrC from Inner Sea Gods seems intended to make you something of a "super-cleric," by letting you "forge a unique connection to your god." You must worship a specific deity instead of an ideal or pantheon, and have to match your deity's alignment exactly (instead of being one step away); you also have to follow their dogma more rigidly, which includes performing a daily Obedience akin to the Evangelist and Sentinel if you want to keep your abilities. In exchange, you get a third domain from that deity, the ability to perform minor miracles, and a few other goodies.

The problem though seems to be that, for all three of your domains you end up with stunted progression. Say you're a Cleric 10/Exalted 10 - Exalted doesn't appear to advance the domains you already have, and the third one uses your Exalted level (i.e. 10) instead of your caster level (20). So at level 20 you end up with three domains each at 10th level as far as strength, DCs etc. Whereas a regular cleric would only have two domains, but they'd both be 20th level as far as strength.

Am I missing something? Does Exalted give you three weak domains instead of two strong ones, and was this intended? Wouldn't a cleric be better off with Evangelist, even though that was the "non-cleric faithful PrC?"


You are correct, just like it doesn't scale an Oracle's mysteries, curse or a Warpriest's Blessings. You can probably pick one of your earlier domains to make it scale with you through the PrC. With that said, if the Exalted did scale up a Cleric's Domains, only Channel Energy scaling would be lost from the original Cleric, meaning that the Exalted PrC would be the optimal pick for about every Cleric (and an unfair pick for any Oracle, Warpriest or any other Divine spellcaster who's abilities didn't scale with the PrC).

A Cleric would not be better off with Evangelist, since it loses spell progression and doesn't scale domains either.


Rub-Eta wrote:

A Cleric would not be better off with Evangelist, since it loses spell progression and doesn't scale domains either.

Wait, don't domains and spells count as class features?


How it works is that as soon as you enter the PrC it halts progress of your original domain powers and channeling D6 but not your domain spells, since these are a class feature that you receive automatically at 1st level. It also stops any FCB so this has to be considered.

When you get the additional domain, its powers progress at your PrC level not your caster level. In addition, the domain spells can be cast 1/day as a SLA using your PrC level. However, the domain spells can be cast using your regular domain slots and so thus in this way would be cast at your caster level.... You have to read the fine print!!

Exalted is OK but I would only recommend a 5 level dip and also it depends on your original 8th level domain powers... if theyre good best wait till 8th to make the dip! Also it depends on what your deities domains are like - if you already have the only 2 good ones its probably not worth your while!

A 5 level dip means you get a couple of the early goodies including the extra domain and your saves are actually better than they would be as a normal cleric. You can stay in longer but it depends on the boons and remember your saves start to diminish past the 5th PrC level.

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So a Cleric/Exalted would end up with three 10th-level domains? Seems lame.

Rub-Eta wrote:


You can probably pick one of your earlier domains to make it scale with you through the PrC.

That's.... a good point, I suppose I could pick an existing domain (nothing's stopping me anyway). Of course, then I'd have one 20th domain and one 10th domain, whereas if I just stuck with cleric I'd have two 20th domains instead, so it still seems weak.

Rub-Eta wrote:


A Cleric would not be better off with Evangelist, since it loses spell progression and doesn't scale domains either.

No, reread Evangelist - it progresses ALL class features 9/10. "Aligned Class (Ex)"


Wai... Wha? *Throws up* I did miss that. But you actually do lose a level of spell/domain (etc) progression (the first level doesn't seem to count). And that may honestly be too much for a full caster to bother. You don't really gain much from the Evangelist, may not be worth getting your spells one level later.
The Exalted do grant better abilities. May be worth it if one of your domains are good at early levels only.

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