Is one of Planar Crossbow's powers useless?


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Planar Crossbow WotR AD5 says "If the bane has the Outsider trait, ignore the bane's immunities."

I find this power to be basically useless as once you beat 5-1, all locations have the abyssal trait, which means there are no bane's for the remainder of AD5 that have the outsider trait...

Being planar I was hoping that it would ignore the abyssal trait and actually make that power work, but it seems rather weak compared to the other ranged weapons from even earlier decks.

Thoughts?


Once you start AD6 you're back to having non-abyssal locations. But in general I agree with you as most outsider immunities are elemental and it's uncommon for a combat check using a weapon to add an element to it that doesn't come from the weapon itself. I think my Arueshalae ended up giving it up for a 2nd skirmishing spear.

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Gambit001 wrote:

Planar Crossbow WotR AD5 says "If the bane has the Outsider trait, ignore the bane's immunities."

I find this power to be basically useless as once you beat 5-1, all locations have the abyssal trait, which means there are no bane's for the remainder of AD5 that have the outsider trait...

Being planar I was hoping that it would ignore the abyssal trait and actually make that power work, but it seems rather weak compared to the other ranged weapons from even earlier decks.

Thoughts?

Our Imrijka and Arueshalae both passed this up, for just the reason you mention. Other weapons from lower-numbered sets are better.


A few powers allow you to ignore the Abyssal trait, but I haven't found it worth the effort.


Malcolm_Reynolds wrote:
A few powers allow you to ignore the Abyssal trait, but I haven't found it worth the effort.

Other than Blessing of Pulura (which I assume works as the location is still a card), any specific cards you can reference for this? None of the ranged characters have such a power and looking through the items, none have it either


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Talisman of True Faith is one.


Those (Pulura and the Talisman) are the only ones that spring to mind.


Spherewalker's Staff allows you to ignore the traits of a location.


Even if it's possibly a shame that the crossbow ends up underpowered, it's still a big flavour win. It makes the abyssal trait really mean something, stuff is genuinely harder because of where you are. I'd argue it's worth having cards like this in the game specifically for the purpose of becoming useless.

I liked that about S&S when your ship was anchored. The cards that worked whenever you were "on a ship" worked often enough that they you would want to put them in your deck, but whenever you stepped off everything became just that little bit more challenging as a result.


I can see that Irgy and that makes sense, but 0 locations from 5-2 to 5-5 are not abyssal so it's a far cry from S&S throwing being anchored once in a while at you. Plus it only gets plus 2 so I'll just keep my 2x composites, 2x stalkers, firebow, and skirmishing spear for now :)


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Stupid question for Mike and Vic : when in the Abyss, shouldn't any monster that doesn't carry the outsider trait on its card be considered to have it?
After all,it's the whole concept of "'Who is the outsider now?"

Just saying.... :-)


^turnabout is fair play sir.


Frencois wrote:

Stupid question for Mike and Vic : when in the Abyss, shouldn't any monster that doesn't carry the outsider trait on its card be considered to have it?

After all,it's the whole concept of "'Who is the outsider now?"

Just saying.... :-)

Maybe some sorts of creatures exist in both planes

Like cockroaches for instance, I can't imagine there's a plane without them...


Irgy wrote:


Maybe some sorts of creatures exist in both planes
Like cockroaches for instance, I can't imagine there's a plane without them...

Limbos. Even cockroaches are too smart to survive in Limbos.

Long ago (when we built Planescape), we proved that the only creature that can survive long in the Limbos are those who somehow manage to end up with a negative Intelligence scores (only them cannot realize that they are supposed to be immediately disintegrated).
"Unless a cockroach starts a career in politics, he is immune to the immunity." If you understood the previous statement I have a good and two bad news for you. Good news nobody turned you into a coackroach yet. Bad news, you won't survive the Limbos and will lose any elections.

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