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So everyone is looking into all the vigilante talents and all the ways to look into the combat side of the vigilante, I was wondering what the thoughts were on the social side. Namely: what social talents look good for a vigilante?
Personally, I really like social graces, as it is a way to boost diplomacy, bluff, or any other int/wis/chr skill (outside perception and UMD.)
At level 7, quick change is super nice, but most of the others seem lackluster. Celeb discount seems nice at first, but since it requires another talent, and only gets you a 10% discount on items up to 500 GP, (2000 with another talent, maxes out with 8000 with a third), it doesn't seem terribly worth it. Any other thoughts?
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Social Graces is the best Talent, bar none. Quick Change is pretty good, too, as is it's improved version (Immediate Change).
Renown is a surprisingly high Intimidate bonus when it applies, and the improved attitude is very nice, too. Likewise the improved versions. These are only a really good idea if you don't move around too much, of course. The Talents that help make them better when moving (Triumphant Return and Instant Recognition) are worth it if you already have Renown, but make the cost real high if you know you're gonna be moving from the get-go.
Case The Joint is good when it applies. How often that is really depends on the game in question. Gossip Collector is a bit more generally applicable, but still a little situational.
Double Time and In Vogue are okay, but nothing spectacular, and should really only be taken for the flavor. Ditto Celebrity Discount and Celebrity Perks.
Like Renown, Loyal Aid and Safe House are actually pretty nice when they apply, and quite good for a settled game. They'll see little use in a mobile one.
Feign Innocence and Subjective Truth are amazing in a game that actually features, y'know, intrigue. Again, assuming Renown applies. They're...less useful in a less secretive/socially oriented game.
Mockingbird is fun, and I'm sure there's some very neat stuff you can do with it...but it's not super powerful. Better than the purely flavor ones, though.
Many Guises, Everyman, and Any Guise are superb. They really do make the Vigilante a complete master of disguise able to be anyone. It's pretty neat. Not super useful if you don't care about disguises, but still, some of the very best Talents on a purely mechanical level.
Renown is awesome, mass charm person!
What social talent to pick really depends on the campaign. If you don't get to stick around a place for a week, renown ain't so useful.
If there's no time for downtime for crafting or profession, double time and in vogue won't see much use.
Social grace is the most useful most of the time, but not as mechanically fun as the other ones.
Many guises and the rest of the line of disguise talents are great for a character that wants the be master of disguise or have several alternate identities on the go.
If campaign actually does involve staying at a community for extended period of time (like a whole level's worth), such as several urban APs, renown line of stuff is wonderfully flavourful.
Celebrity perks looks awesome for any sort of aristocrat/adventurer living the decent life in town.
Safe house gets the vigilante (or rest of party too if feeling charitable) an awesome base of operations that can be moved within a week's (or shorter with right talents) notice.
I'm hoping to start up a vigilante in a Hell's Rebels AP eventually. From the looks of it it's mostly one city for the whole AP which is perfect for the vigilante. Would totally snag renown as first talent, and possibly safe house or celebrity perks as second or third talents. Social grace is useful, but I want the fun stuff!