Deadmanwalking |
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swoosh wrote:DPR also goes up quite a bit if you can use Sense Vitals, but no one can agree on whether or not that spell works for Warlocks, so ETV.ETV?
Exposure Time Variance?
Emergency Towing Vessel?
Environmental Technology Verification?
I'm guessing it's 'Expect Table Variation'. I've seen the phrase used before, though not, I think, the abbreviation.
Prince Yyrkoon |
You could also grab Weapon Finesse and just switch hit with bolts alone. You get one less attack in melee, but that's all you give up, and not that big a deal by the time you're grabbing ITWF. That keeps them all touch attacks, as well.
Very true. That may even work out better in the long run, although I am partial to the extra damage a + x conductive rapier could bring. But pure touch attacks are tempting...
Imbicatus |
Expect Table Variance or Variation. Yes.
Basically it's up in the air right now whether or not Mystic Bolts are compatible with spells like Haste or Sense Vitals and whether or not your GM allows them can have a big impact on the damage a warlock can dish out.
Haste absolutely works. The only question on Sense Vitals is that it requires a "manufactured" weapon, so the bolts may not qualify.
Squiggit |
Haste absolutely works. The only question on Sense Vitals is that it requires a "manufactured" weapon, so the bolts may not qualify.
Well, haste says "natural or manufactured weapon", so I figure it's in a similar boat.
Does a warlock not manufacture their mystic bolt? I think to produce and manufacture are synonymous right?
That's an argument I see a lot, that you quite literally do manufacture them, so they should count.
Some people don't like that though and there's no RAW one way or the other.
Luthorne |
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Something possibly worth noting for when an enemy has a lot of resistances...truefrost elixir. Not necessarily something you would want to use all the time, but if you did run into someone who was stopping your damage cold (ho ho ho) via immunities or resistances, it might be worth considering having a few on hand. Wish alternate versions existed for all four main energy types, though...well, canonically. A DM might allow alternate versions to be created, after all.
Imbicatus |
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FAQ on Mystic bolts. They aren't manufactured.
So no haste, sense vitals, etc.
Haste works, as you substitute a mystic bolts attack in place of a weapon attack granted by haste. Sense vitals is a solid no though.
Imbicatus |
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Haste wrote:When making a full attack action, a hasted creature may make one extra attack with one natural or manufactured weapon.That kills an extra attack from Haste w/ Mystic Bolts.
No, it doesn't.
Attacking with a mystic bolt takes the place of one of the warlock’s normal attacks, and she can make a full attack using mystic bolts.
Since you can make a normal attack with haste, a mystic bolt can be substituted for it.
Squiggit |
Mystic Bolt doesn't say "replace a manufactured weapon attack" it says "takes the place of one of the warlock's normal attacks and she can make a full attack using mystic bolts". But when you make a full attack using mystic bolts you aren't making a full attack with a natural or manufactured weapon, so it's not illegible.
I agree that's probably not the intent though.
Zabraxis |
This isn't a case of specific trumps general it's specific vs specific.
Haste grants a conditional extra attack while Mystic Bolts grants an exception for normal attacks. The additional attack from Haste is not a normal attack it is an extra attack made as part of a full attack action.
There's obviously enough disagreement on this that the FAQ needs a FAQ.