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Character sheet wise. I'm copying her stats into a character sheet so she can be used easier. I have no idea how her stats were achieved. Because one sheet I am using is a form fillable sheet, I just have to lump in random numbers in order to achieve the final stats that are shown in the AP. I'd like to have an actual understanding of where they come from.
Thank you.
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Lets see how close we can get with the rules.
1) start with succubus stats
Str 13, Dex 17, Con 20, Int 18, Wis 14, Cha 27
2) belt of physical perfection +2
Str 15, Dex 19, Con 22, Int 18, Wis 14, Cha 27
3) apply elite template for stats as she has character levels. This is a +4,+4,+2,+2,0 and -2 to your choice of stats.
Str 19, Dex 21, Con 24, Int 18, Wis 12, Cha 29
so her mental stats are in place
+1 stat bump for 4th level
Str 20, Dex 21, Con 24, Int 18, Wis 12, Cha 29
strength is in place
+2 to a stat for mythic tier 2
Str 20, Dex 23, Con 24, Int 18, Wis 12, Cha 29
so all but con (or any physical stat)is supported by rules. Which is fairly accurate for an NPC in this AP.
She is also a unique creature so her stats and abilities may not follow the build rules presented.
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Thank you Seannoss. I really have no experience with building NPCs like this.
Out of curiosity, where is the rule that says you add the elite template because of character levels? Maybe reading that will help me better understand.
That particular bit of info is in the bestiary, appendix 2.
Seannoss wrote: Lets see how close we can get with the rules.
1) start with succubus stats
Str 13, Dex 17, Con 20, Int 18, Wis 14, Cha 27
2) belt of physical perfection +2
Str 15, Dex 19, Con 22, Int 18, Wis 14, Cha 27
3) apply elite template for stats as she has character levels. This is a +4,+4,+2,+2,0 and -2 to your choice of stats.
Str 19, Dex 21, Con 24, Int 18, Wis 12, Cha 29
so her mental stats are in place
+1 stat bump for 4th level
Str 20, Dex 21, Con 24, Int 18, Wis 12, Cha 29
strength is in place
+2 to a stat for mythic tier 2
Str 20, Dex 23, Con 24, Int 18, Wis 12, Cha 29
so all but con (or any physical stat)is supported by rules. Which is fairly accurate for an NPC in this AP.
She is also a unique creature so her stats and abilities may not follow the build rules presented.
I think I've spotted the problem (assuming you're 2 points short on CON - I don't have the final stats): when applying the elite template, you applied only one +4 (to STR) and three +2's (to DEX, CON and CHA), instead of two of each.
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Oops, or thanks! The concept and rules were right, just poorly executed by me.
No problem, we all mess up. And you did a good job finding all the rules to apply in the first place.
Sorry to cast thread resurrection, but I can not figure out all Arueshalae skills and feats. Can someone show me how, especially starting with "default succubus" skills / feats.
Also, is there a level up for her?
thanks,
-- david
DM Papa.DRB wrote: Sorry to cast thread resurrection, but I can not figure out all Arueshalae skills and feats. Can someone show me how, especially starting with "default succubus" skills / feats.
Also, is there a level up for her?
thanks,
-- david
I know this is a pretty late response, but on the off chance that it is still helpful I am going to make it anyway.
Her feats pretty simple through they aren't based on the default succubus, but instead directly on her HD (you can also do this with default monsters if you feel like it to make them a bit more special, just watch out for bonus feats.)
14 hitdice make for 7 feats.
Her skills on the other hand are a lot tougher.
They appear to also be a redistribution of her skill points from her racial hit dice 8*(6+int) plus those from her class level 6*(6+int+1 for favored).
However after adding all her various bonuses ie.
+8 racial to bluff and perception (from being a succubus)
+4 to disguise and bluff from deceitful (assuming at least 10 ranks)
+3 from all her skills being a class skill (fly, from having a fly speed, everything else except acrobatics from Master Spy and presumably acrobatics instead of intimidate from the succubus since that is no longer "thematically fitting as the outsider type specifies" and we need the bonus).
+6 to bluff, disguise and sense motive (from her levels in Master Spy)
+1 luck to all skill from her Swallowtail Bracers
My calculations results in her needing the following number of ranks:
14 Acrobatics
15 Bluff
6 Diplomacy
15 Disguise
11 Fly
6 Knowledge (Geography)
6 Knowledge (Planes)
8 Knowledge (Local)
7 Knowledge (Religion)
14 Perception
15 Sense Motive
15 Stealth
15 Use Magic Device
The problem is that this is a) a total of 147, rather than the 140 she should have and b) her maximum number of ranks should be 14 due to her hitdice.
However I noticed some other strange things about her sheet, specifically she has +1 more to Reflex and Will than she should, and she also has 3d6 sneak attack instead of the 2d6 her levels would give her. this is exactly what she would have gained with a 7th level in Master Spy.
I therefore hypothesize that she at one point in the design process had 7 levels in Master Spy and that a few small mistakes were made when her level was lowered.
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