If a halfling dies...


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and is reincarnated and he had Adaptable luck racial trait and Fortunate One (Halfling) would he lose his luck ability?


Reincarnation talks about removing all racial abilities, if I recall correctly.


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You lose the luck because it's part of being a halfling and you're not. Technically you keep your feat, but it stops working because you no longer satisfy a prerequisite. If you manage to turn back into a halfling (with that same racial trait) the feat will work again.


It retains any class abilities, feats, or skill ranks it formerly possessed.

Fortunate One (Halfling) is a feat and up above says you get to keep your feats.
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Strength, Dexterity, and Constitution scores depend partly on the new body. First eliminate the subject's racial adjustments (since it is no longer necessarily of his previous race) and then apply the adjustments found below to its remaining ability scores. The subject of the spell gains two permanent negative levels when it is reincarnated.

that its pluses and negatives to the body stats.i don't see anything about making the person stupider or removing defensive traits.
also it does not list the bumps for the mental stats on the reincarnate table.
the body is changed but not the spirit.
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the racist human dies and his friends brings being him back with reincarnate. he comes back as a darn dirty kobold. it does not change his racism he is going to still hate all other races. changing bodies does not change the soul.....unless your something that secretly hates what they are and gets an upgrade like a kobold. i think i read somewhere where they secretly hate all races because they are better then the kobolds. they would be secretly happy they where reincarnated as something other then kobold? a halfling would still be a halfling spiritually even if his body is not halfling any more?


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zainale wrote:

It retains any class abilities, feats, or skill ranks it formerly possessed.

Fortunate One (Halfling) is a feat and up above says you get to keep your feats.

You do get to keep it but you don't get to use it unless you somehow turn back into a halfling and regain the low-blow racial trait.

Feats wrote:

Prerequisites

Some feats have prerequisites. Your character must have the indicated ability score, class feature, feat, skill, base attack bonus, or other quality designated in order to select or use that feat.

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This is a rules question, flagged for moving.

As the feat requires you to have the halfing adaptable luck racial trait and be a Halfling you would no longer meet the requirements to use the feat. You would still have it, but would not be able to use it until you meet the requirements. That would require you to become a Halfling with the adaptable luck racial trait.

For what it's worth, you also would lose the adaptable luck racial quality, so having the feat add to something you can't do wouldn't make sense.

Yes, reincarnation is kind of b%#+* sometimes.

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Sounds like your luck ran out.


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Yeah, maybe Fortunate One isn't worth it? I mean that feat didn't do you any good earlier, right? So why would you want to keep it now?

Haha, but Claxon got the hang of it. Reincarnation is tough. And I don't think there is any clear ruling on the subject. The most fair (easiest) would be to re-do your character completely as a member of the new race. But as it is, you do keep all your mental benefits from your previous race.

So a Halfling reincarnated as a human would lose her size bonus, Keen Senses and Sure-Footed, but become faster (20->40) while retaining her Weapon Familiarity* and Fearless racial traits.
She also wouldn't be granted the Bonus Feat or Skilled from her new human form, since those two are mental.

And, her racial adjustments would go from +2 Dex/+2 Cha/-2 Str to +2 Con/+2 Cha.

The Adaptable Luck racial trait is kinda hard to place as either mental or physical. Is it a state of mind shared by Halflings? Or are their bodies blessed?

Either way, even if you keep the Halfling Luck racial trait, you still wouldn't fill the requirement of being a halfling for the feat Fortunate One, so the feat wouldn't do anything for you.


How about the Human bonus feat? Would a Human reincarnated to something else get to keep it?


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Am I really the only one that saw this title and automatically filled in, "... in the forest, alone, and no bears were nearby..." for, like, half a dozen different jokes?

(Also, you can replace "forest" and "bears" with most anything, really. It never gets less funny. I may be a bad person.)


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Arbane the Terrible wrote:
How about the Human bonus feat? Would a Human reincarnated to something else get to keep it?

Yes, since the Bonus Feat is a mental racial trait. But there are exceptions. If you had taken "Toughness" as your Bonus Feat, then one could argue that it is a physical Racial Trait, which wouldn't transfer.

Reincarnation requires the player and the GM to decide what stays and doesn't with a case-by-case process.


Wonderstell wrote:
Arbane the Terrible wrote:
How about the Human bonus feat? Would a Human reincarnated to something else get to keep it?

Yes, since the Bonus Feat is a mental racial trait. But there are exceptions. If you had taken "Toughness" as your Bonus Feat, then one could argue that it is a physical Racial Trait, which wouldn't transfer.

Reincarnation requires the player and the GM to decide what stays and doesn't with a case-by-case process.

Feats are learned behavior not physical trait. They are defiantly not racial traits even if the prerequisite is being a certain race. A human would keep his bonus feat no matter what the feat is. He may not be able to use the feat if he no longer meets the prerequisite , but he still has it. Just like the Halfling still has Adaptable Luck, but is not able to use it. Toughness has no prerequisite so the reincarnated human would still retain the extra HP, and continue to gain extra HP as they level up.


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Expect a lot of table variance but yeah I'd agree you keep the feat.

And if you have your +2 in a mental stat if you get reincarnated as your own race you mysteriously gain stats. So that's neat.

So do half-elves, half orcs and gnolls.


Mysterious Stranger wrote:
Wonderstell wrote:
Arbane the Terrible wrote:
Omitted

Yes, since the Bonus Feat is a mental racial trait. But there are exceptions. If you had taken "Toughness" as your Bonus Feat, then one could argue that it is a physical Racial Trait, which wouldn't transfer.

Reincarnation requires the player and the GM to decide what stays and doesn't with a case-by-case process.

Feats are learned behavior not physical trait. They are defiantly not racial traits even if the prerequisite is being a certain race. A human would keep his bonus feat no matter what the feat is. He may not be able to use the feat if he no longer meets the prerequisite , but he still has it. Just like the Halfling still has Adaptable Luck, but is not able to use it. Toughness has no prerequisite so the reincarnated human would still retain the extra HP, and continue to gain extra HP as they level up.

While it is true for most feats that they are learned behavior, not all feats fall into that category. For example; toughness.

Toughness:
You have enhanced physical stamina.

Benefit: You gain +3 hit points. For every Hit Die you possess beyond 3, you gain an additional +1 hit point. If you have more than 3 Hit Dice, you gain +1 hit points whenever you gain a Hit Die (such as when you gain a level).

The increased hit points doesn't seem to stem from force of will or the like. Sounds like you really just got a sturdier body than others.


You can either drop the feat you can no longer use, or dedicate your life to getting a polymorph, and of course some restoration spells. You can use this as a rebuild opportunity, and get a feat specific to your new race, and still be able to use the restorations.

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