Caster level in generating price of a magic item

[Lathelus]

Hello! I've got a problem. I'm a DM, and the PC want to enchant his weapon, so I'm trying to learn the pattern of generating a cost of an item. I found, that Oil (Darkness) costs 300 gp. Then, I started calculating.

Spell level x caster level x 50 gp.

So, darkness is a level 2nd spell, so the caster has to be 2nd level, 2x2x50=200gp. Wait... 200gp!=300gp. Why? I checked the d20pfsrd site, and under potions there is a table of d% rolls, minor, medium and major items, spell level 0, 1st, 2nd and 3rd, all good for now. But then, the caster levels. 1st, 1st, 3rd, 5th. What the hell? Can someone explain that for me? I'd be grateful.

Also, is it even possible for a PC to "order" an enhancement of a weapon, which is given to the spell caster? You know, PC gives a weapon to a wizard (masterwork of course), and says that "I'd like to enhance this sword to a +1 flaming". It is in a capital city, by the way.

[Jeraa]

2nd spells generally require a caster level of 3rd. 2x3x50 = 300gp. 3rd level spells generally have a minimum cater level of 5th. Spell level is not the same level a character gets access to the spell.

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Also, is it even possible for a PC to "order" an enhancement of a weapon, which is given to the spell caster? You know, PC gives a weapon to a wizard (masterwork of course), and says that "I'd like to enhance this sword to a +1 flaming". It is in a capital city, by the way.

If the GM says it is all right, then yes.

[Snowblind]

Lathelus wrote:

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Also, is it even possible for a PC to "order" an enhancement of a weapon, which is given to the spell caster? You know, PC gives a weapon to a wizard (masterwork of course), and says that "I'd like to enhance this sword to a +1 flaming". It is in a capital city, by the way.

The rules don't actually state whether or not enchanting services are available, but the majority of GMs will allow it in typical campaigns.

[Lathelus]

Okay, thanks for help. But, now I started calculating the price, and I'm confused. The PC ordered a +1 frost katana. It was masterwork before, so the masterwork cost is already paid. Next, the +1 enhancement, this is easy, 2,000gp. But then, the "Frost" enhancement. I presume, this is a Command word enhancement.

Spell level x caster level x 1,800 gp

So, the spell level. There isn't one? So I should skip that? And then, caster level, 8th, so 8x1,800=14400gp? Is that right?

[Jeraa]

Weapon (and armor) enhancements have their own table. Frost is priced as a +1 equivalent bonus, so a +1 Frost weapon is priced as a +2 weapon total (8,000gp, plus the masterwork weapon).

The formulas you are looking at (command word, use-activated, etc.) only apply to items that duplicate a spell.

[Lathelus]

Ok, now I understand, I think. So, for example, 4 +1 flaming bolts are worth 640 gp, because +1 and flaming are +2 bonus, so 8000gp, this is ammunition, so this is for 50 bolts. 8000/50=160, 160x4=640gp, is this right?

[Jeraa]

Lathelus wrote:

Ok, now I understand, I think. So, for example, 4 +1 flaming bolts are worth 640 gp, because +1 and flaming are +2 bonus, so 8000gp, this is ammunition, so this is for 50 bolts. 8000/50=160, 160x4=640gp, is this right?

Mostly. You need to include the cost of the masterwork weapon too. For arrows, that is 6 gold and 5 copper each.

[Lathelus]

YESS, finally! Thank you very much.