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If dispel magic using the area dispel option was cast in the middle of 4 enemies multiple spells active, and the caster successfully makes the CL check, how many spells are removed from each enemy?
For example:
Caster is 12th level caster
Enemies have 3 active spells each, casted at 10th level (DC 21)
All 4 enemies are close enough to be within area of dispel magic
Caster rolls 25 for caster level check (CL 12 + 13 on d20)
As another question about area dispel magic -- I know the caster can't choose which spell to dispel as is possible with the targeted dispel against a single target, but what if the targets have a bunch of spells all of the same CL? This must happen a lot, because a party of PCs that receives a lot of buffing spells from one spellcaster -- all will have the same CL. In that instance, does the caster of the area dispel get to choose which spell to target among the spells with the same CL?
I would assume it's random at that point.
I would assume it's random at that point.
I agree unless the caster of the dispel knows a particular spell is running on their foe(s), when I allow a spellcraft check against the dispel DC to target that spell (but that's a house rule).
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I would assume it's random at that point.I agree unless the caster of the dispel knows a particular spell is running on their foe(s), when I allow a spellcraft check against the dispel DC to target that spell (but that's a house rule).
Wouldn't that be a Knowledge (arcana) check since identifying active spell effect is specifically listed under this skill?
Thanks. The spellcaster absolutely knows the spell it wants to target. I think I will probably allow it with some kind of roll... Further thoughts very welcome!
Wouldn't that be a Knowledge (arcana) check since identifying active spell effect is specifically listed under this skill?I would assume it's random at that point.I agree unless the caster of the dispel knows a particular spell is running on their foe(s), when I allow a spellcraft check against the dispel DC to target that spell (but that's a house rule).
Since its a house rule, sure -- but I like to go on this logic: K:Arcana lets you identify the foes' spell with that detect magic. You can tell other spells are running too, maybe even know what they are, but you want to hit that one particular spell. You could cast dispel on that spell as per the Dispel magic spell and make a level check, but if you blow it, you get no other effect. So, you play it safe and cast dispel normally and get lucky, of the four spells running all are at the same caster level, so instead of randomly rolling I give one shot to manipulate the spell, spellcraft it, to target the desired spell, but if you fail, then one goes randomly - like the normal dispel magic would do.
Um, so in PFRPG Dispel Magic no longer can use area dispel, you need greater dispel for that?
Right?
Um, so in PFRPG Dispel Magic no longer can use area dispel, you need greater dispel for that?
Right?
to get 20' burst option, correct. Don't forget this gem as well:
"If an object or creature that is the effect of an ongoing spell (such as a monster summoned by summon monster) is in the area, apply the dispel check to end the spell that conjured that object or creature (returning it whence it came) in addition to attempting to dispel one spell targeting the creature or object."