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Patrick Curtin wrote:
I am tired of the rural scene. I think when I get my paralegal certification I will be looking to find a job in a more urban setting.

**cough cough**Houston**cough cough**


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Here's a lozenge for your cough. You seem to have a hard time pronouncing "New York".

Also, fix your clothes.


May the 4th be with you! :)

I, personally, while by myself, can live anywhere.
I have lived in Suburbs, and in the middle of 'Big City' (New Orleans)
I do not enjoy being on the outskirts of po-dunk-no-where, (Too far to go to get to anything I want/need) but I also, (with family, and all that entails) did not really enjoy living in middle of New Orleans. (ALthough we DID live right next door to City Park, and walked over there for the free concerts and such frequently. That was fun) :)

I enjoy where we are now. Mostly. ;P
We are in a Big Town that calls itself a city. :)
It is large enough that it actually has an 'old downtown' area, and all the newer modern conveniences and places to go, but is small enough that If I have to drive across the entire city it doesn't take but 15 min max. (Traffic depending) ;)

Yeah, suburbia for the win. Far enough to take the car if your in a hurry, but close enough to bike if you have the time.

The clincher for me? Having a drive way. Seriously.
Having NO off street parking in the middle of New Orleans was a PAIN.

Did I mention MAY THE 4th BE WITH YOU! (?) :)


There's no point in having an automobile if you live in a big city proper. It's just a pain.


I like suburbs but it's more of a tolerance than a preference. As much as I would love to live in a smaller town area, it'd be pretty impossible to keep doing the jobs I know how to do in a strictly more-rural locale. So a suburb on the edge of some place more urban becomes the compromise.

That said, even that has its limits. I don't think I will ever be able to live comfortably in any place much bigger than Chattanooga. I'm certainly never going to go somewhere as big as the Phoenix valley to live again.

Also never going to go back to relying on busses for travel. I may not have cared much about driving as a teenager, but at this point in my life I am never, ever wanting to be slave to someone else's transit schedule if I can do anything at all to prevent it. I simply cannot stand the idea of losing the flexibility and independence of being able to drive my own damn vehicle.

The rest of the "issues" of rural living aren't problems for me. All my friends are online anyway so not having people locally to do hobbies with is irrelevant. I'm very much not interested in people-watching on any level. I'm not a shopper, almost all my entertainment is - again - online, and - yet again - I'm not interested in forming groups with people locally, that's what the internet is for.

I guess it's less "rural" that I'm personally interested in and more "small-town". I just will likely never understand the appeal of having so many people so close together. And more to the point, it's not something I want to understand.

Yeah, I guess if I put forth the effort I could get over most of these complaints and adapt. But I don't want to, I have no interest or intent to visit a big city unless I absolutely must and even then for no longer than completely necessary, and I'd rather expend my very limited time and energy on things I actually want to do.


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There's a bird out here in the high country that sounds like somebody is attempting to forcibly convert it into a set of bagpipes. Don't know what it is, but it sounds godawful.


It isn't that you HAVE to have a car. It's that you GET to have a car. The greatest moment of freedom in my life was when I got my first car and the world was open to me.

Sovereign Court

Freehold DM wrote:
Callous Jack wrote:
David M Mallon wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Infernal Healer wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:
Patrick Curtin wrote:
David M Mallon wrote:
Patrick Curtin wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Patrick Curtin wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:
Patrick Curtin wrote:
I miss gaming. I came to this conclusion last night. As soon as this week is done I am heading back into the fray
What is this "gaming" of which you speak?
A delightful pasttime I used to indulge in
come back to ny, I'll get a one shot for you and ch and perhaps Dave if he comes and the +1, who is looking to get into gaming.
Sounds good! I want to pull off another weekend to go museum hopping. We could likely fold a game into that.
Not sure if I'm going to be able to handle NY again for a good long while.
We could skip the massive imbibing of alcohol...
Speaking for myself, my liver needs a year or two to recover from that one.
So...no lovecraft later on this month? Maybe in June then? After I get back from conventioning?
We can go. I just need to stop at some number shy of six.
I don't remember what number I got up to.

Probably 5.

F~%@ing lightweight.

nuh-uh! I totally drank more than that!

I wish I could remember everything that happened that evening.

Whatever. I still won.
I just want to add to the pyramid.
it's okay callous jack. You just need to come to ny next time.

My vagabond shoes are longing to stray.


Orthos wrote:

I like suburbs but it's more of a tolerance than a preference. As much as I would love to live in a smaller town area, it'd be pretty impossible to keep doing the jobs I know how to do in a strictly more-rural locale. So a suburb on the edge of some place more urban becomes the compromise.

That said, even that has its limits. I don't think I will ever be able to live comfortably in any place much bigger than Chattanooga. I'm certainly never going to go somewhere as big as the Phoenix valley to live again.

Also never going to go back to relying on busses for travel. I may not have cared much about driving as a teenager, but at this point in my life I am never, ever wanting to be slave to someone else's transit schedule if I can do anything at all to prevent it. I simply cannot stand the idea of losing the flexibility and independence of being able to drive my own damn vehicle.

The rest of the "issues" of rural living aren't problems for me. All my friends are online anyway so not having people locally to do hobbies with is irrelevant. I'm very much not interested in people-watching on any level. I'm not a shopper, almost all my entertainment is - again - online, and - yet again - I'm not interested in forming groups with people locally, that's what the internet is for.

I guess it's less "rural" that I'm personally interested in and more "small-town". I just will likely never understand the appeal of having so many people so close together. And more to the point, it's not something I want to understand.

Yeah, I guess if I put forth the effort I could get over most of these complaints and adapt. But I don't want to, I have no interest or intent to visit a big city unless I absolutely must and even then for no longer than completely necessary, and I'd rather expend my very limited time and energy on things I actually want to do

So...

Is that a "no" on visiting New York?


Callous Jack wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Callous Jack wrote:
David M Mallon wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Infernal Healer wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:
Patrick Curtin wrote:
David M Mallon wrote:
Patrick Curtin wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Patrick Curtin wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:
Patrick Curtin wrote:
I miss gaming. I came to this conclusion last night. As soon as this week is done I am heading back into the fray
What is this "gaming" of which you speak?
A delightful pasttime I used to indulge in
come back to ny, I'll get a one shot for you and ch and perhaps Dave if he comes and the +1, who is looking to get into gaming.
Sounds good! I want to pull off another weekend to go museum hopping. We could likely fold a game into that.
Not sure if I'm going to be able to handle NY again for a good long while.
We could skip the massive imbibing of alcohol...
Speaking for myself, my liver needs a year or two to recover from that one.
So...no lovecraft later on this month? Maybe in June then? After I get back from conventioning?
We can go. I just need to stop at some number shy of six.
I don't remember what number I got up to.

Probably 5.

F~%@ing lightweight.

nuh-uh! I totally drank more than that!

I wish I could remember everything that happened that evening.

Whatever. I still won.
I just want to add to the pyramid.
it's okay callous jack. You just need to come to ny next time.

My vagabond shoes are longing to stray.

Do you want to be a part of it?


Freehold DM wrote:
Orthos wrote:

I like suburbs but it's more of a tolerance than a preference. As much as I would love to live in a smaller town area, it'd be pretty impossible to keep doing the jobs I know how to do in a strictly more-rural locale. So a suburb on the edge of some place more urban becomes the compromise.

That said, even that has its limits. I don't think I will ever be able to live comfortably in any place much bigger than Chattanooga. I'm certainly never going to go somewhere as big as the Phoenix valley to live again.

Also never going to go back to relying on busses for travel. I may not have cared much about driving as a teenager, but at this point in my life I am never, ever wanting to be slave to someone else's transit schedule if I can do anything at all to prevent it. I simply cannot stand the idea of losing the flexibility and independence of being able to drive my own damn vehicle.

The rest of the "issues" of rural living aren't problems for me. All my friends are online anyway so not having people locally to do hobbies with is irrelevant. I'm very much not interested in people-watching on any level. I'm not a shopper, almost all my entertainment is - again - online, and - yet again - I'm not interested in forming groups with people locally, that's what the internet is for.

I guess it's less "rural" that I'm personally interested in and more "small-town". I just will likely never understand the appeal of having so many people so close together. And more to the point, it's not something I want to understand.

Yeah, I guess if I put forth the effort I could get over most of these complaints and adapt. But I don't want to, I have no interest or intent to visit a big city unless I absolutely must and even then for no longer than completely necessary, and I'd rather expend my very limited time and energy on things I actually want to do

So...

Is that a "no" on visiting New York?

Very much so.

New York is on the short list with LA, SanFran, and Chicago as the "US cities I hope I never have to visit".


NY is the only city on that list I've never been. Yet.


Aranna wrote:
It isn't that you HAVE to have a car. It's that you GET to have a car. The greatest moment of freedom in my life was when I got my first car and the world was open to me.

The thing was, when I was growing up, I didn't have anywhere to go in a car.

I lived in a small town in southern Texas. It was an hour drive to any place that a teenager would theoretically want to go - you had to go to the larger cities around if you wanted to go see a movie, go to most restaurants, or do most other "social" events. And since I had no interest in most "social" activities, I never wanted/needed to go to them (which probably influenced and continues to influence my lack of interest in what most bigger cities have to offer, even now twelve to fifteen years later).

Most of the kids in my school who had cars would just "cruise", which as far as I could tell was just "go and drive around with no destination in mind". Which I had no interest in.

I had no desire to get a job, so that motivation was out.

So when your greatest goal in life after getting home from school is to sit in your room and read or play video games, what's the point of having to deal with the expense and upkeep of having a vehicle?

Things are different now, but now also includes having to go to and from work - often at late or unpredictable hours - as well as make cross-state or cross-country trips to visit friends and family. Things that were neither desires nor problems when I was in high school.

Honestly I think it took having to endure eight years of public transit to convince me that I needed a car if I ever wanted to be able to operate on my own schedule. =)


Orthos wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
Orthos wrote:

I like suburbs but it's more of a tolerance than a preference. As much as I would love to live in a smaller town area, it'd be pretty impossible to keep doing the jobs I know how to do in a strictly more-rural locale. So a suburb on the edge of some place more urban becomes the compromise.

That said, even that has its limits. I don't think I will ever be able to live comfortably in any place much bigger than Chattanooga. I'm certainly never going to go somewhere as big as the Phoenix valley to live again.

Also never going to go back to relying on busses for travel. I may not have cared much about driving as a teenager, but at this point in my life I am never, ever wanting to be slave to someone else's transit schedule if I can do anything at all to prevent it. I simply cannot stand the idea of losing the flexibility and independence of being able to drive my own damn vehicle.

The rest of the "issues" of rural living aren't problems for me. All my friends are online anyway so not having people locally to do hobbies with is irrelevant. I'm very much not interested in people-watching on any level. I'm not a shopper, almost all my entertainment is - again - online, and - yet again - I'm not interested in forming groups with people locally, that's what the internet is for.

I guess it's less "rural" that I'm personally interested in and more "small-town". I just will likely never understand the appeal of having so many people so close together. And more to the point, it's not something I want to understand.

Yeah, I guess if I put forth the effort I could get over most of these complaints and adapt. But I don't want to, I have no interest or intent to visit a big city unless I absolutely must and even then for no longer than completely necessary, and I'd rather expend my very limited time and energy on things I actually want to do

So...

Is that a "no" on visiting New York?

Very yes.

New York is on the short list with LA,...

but...I want to see you... ;_;


captain yesterday wrote:
NY is the only city on that list I've never been. Yet.

I had an opportunity to go to Chicago a couple years ago, a family reunion on my dad's side was being held there. Would've been completely covered by my parents as far as travel, hotel, food, and other necessities.

Still turned it down. In part was because of wanting to stay and work and earn money so I could move out and get an apartment on my own again and didn't want to miss a week or so of income (didn't qualify for paid vacation at the time), but mostly it was because I had no desire to be in Chicago whatsoever and a great desire to avoid it.


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David M Mallon wrote:
Relevant.

Signals was my favorite Rush album. I love Subdivisions


I've never had a good trip to Chicago, so I can't blame you there.

Next time I go, I'll ride the train in and out, and not linger past dark. :-)

Still, I've heard some people enjoy it.

I did like San Francisco and LA though. You can't go wrong with anywhere directly on the west coast. :-)


The only one of those cities I have visited is Chicago. I love Chicago, I make the two hour trip there frequently. Parking is annoying but its better than never going which is what would happen if I had to rely on public transit. Maybe I will get a motorcycle, those are easy to park I would think. I could see me taking the long road trip to New York on a motorcycle.


captain yesterday wrote:
You can't go wrong with anywhere directly on the west coast. :-)

Yeah, I'll just... leave this conversation now.


What does Chattanooga have, i mean in case we ever wanted to go there. :-)

I'm not trying to be sarcastic, I'm genuinely curious. :-)


Patrick Curtin wrote:
David M Mallon wrote:
Relevant.
Signals was my favorite Rush album. I love Subdivisions

My favorite album is still Moving Pictures, but "Subdivisions" is definitely one of my top 5 Rush songs.


I honestly could not tell you a whole lot, since as I said I don't tend to go sightseeing. =)

Lookout Mountain is probably the big one, and the attached Civil War battlefields. So if you're a big history or Civil War buff, I hear it's a must-see.

There's the Chattanooga ChooChoo and Ruby Falls (which isn't technically in Chattanooga but fairly close) of the other commonly-advertised attractions.

Beyond that, despite living here I am not the right person to ask. I've been to Lookout Mountain all of once in the five-plus years I've been here, and never visited either of the others.


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TriOmegaZero wrote:
I rather enjoy being in Mesa. I'm not in the mess that is Phoenix proper, but I can drive a little ways to get just about anything I want. Of course, a decade or two down the line and Mesa will likely be just as overcrowded and congested as Phoenix.

Maybe Black Mesa?

THAT WAS A JOKE. FAT CHANCE.


Treppa wrote:

I like the anonymity of cities. You can be dead there for years and nobody would know it, not even neighbors. That's very comforting.

Suburbs are a horror.

*sigh* Not since I took friends in to live as my flat-mates.


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Yesterday I passed a "tourist house" (a sort of cheap hotel) with an add stating "night for 30 zloty" (bit less than $10 at current rates). You can easily feed oneself for a day for another 30 zloty (for that amount of money for three days if you want to cook instead of eating out).

Not that I am suggesting where the next FAWTL meeting should be...

If only flight fares were cheaper... *sigh*


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My 8yo charge gave me a Chewbacca sticker for Star Wars Day. It's on my hand now. :$ *sniffle*

In other news, I bought a German pencil sharpener today. MAN, does it make a point!

Silver Crusade

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captain yesterday wrote:
NY is the only city on that list I've never been. Yet.

Do it.

Silver Crusade

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Orthos wrote:

I honestly could not tell you a whole lot, since as I said I don't tend to go sightseeing. =)

Lookout Mountain is probably the big one, and the attached Civil War battlefields. So if you're a big history or Civil War buff, I hear it's a must-see.

There's the Chattanooga ChooChoo and Ruby Falls (which isn't technically in Chattanooga but fairly close) of the other commonly-advertised attractions.

Beyond that, despite living here I am not the right person to ask. I've been to Lookout Mountain all of once in the five-plus years I've been here, and never visited either of the others.

People never do touristy things where they live. You only do those things when people are visiting from out of town. That is pretty much the case no matter where one lives.


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David M Mallon wrote:
Patrick Curtin wrote:
David M Mallon wrote:
Relevant.
Signals was my favorite Rush album. I love Subdivisions
My favorite album is still Moving Pictures, but "Subdivisions" is definitely one of my top 5 Rush songs.

Moving Pictures is a great album, but I kinda got burned out on it as s youth. That was THE Rush album when I was in high school. I actually saw them on their Grace Under Pressure tour in '84 which was the album directly after Signals and MP


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I am pretty buzzed at this point. Had a good dinner with a friend. First BBQ of the season (in the rain!)


Celestial Healer wrote:
Orthos wrote:

I honestly could not tell you a whole lot, since as I said I don't tend to go sightseeing. =)

Lookout Mountain is probably the big one, and the attached Civil War battlefields. So if you're a big history or Civil War buff, I hear it's a must-see.

There's the Chattanooga ChooChoo and Ruby Falls (which isn't technically in Chattanooga but fairly close) of the other commonly-advertised attractions.

Beyond that, despite living here I am not the right person to ask. I've been to Lookout Mountain all of once in the five-plus years I've been here, and never visited either of the others.

People never do touristy things where they live. You only do those things when people are visiting from out of town. That is pretty much the case no matter where one lives.

I still need someone to visit me so I have an excuse to go to Nantucket. It's embarrassing that I've never been there


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I love Chicago, but I am dying to see New York. I imagine that it is everything I love about Chicago, only moreso. But all these theme bars strike me as odd. Aren't there real corner bars there?

Silver Crusade

Hey Patrick, remember how I was saying it is important to let yourself be bored and just live in your own thoughts sometimes? Case in point, if I did not let myself do that the other day I wouldn't have come up with a plot for The Princess and the Pee.

Spoiler:
The ultimate test of royal birth is a night spent upon a urine-soaked mattress. A true princess could never sleep soundly in a puddle of her own waste.

Silver Crusade

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Mmmm. Cognac.

Silver Crusade

Treppa wrote:
I love Chicago, but I am dying to see New York. I imagine that it is everything I love about Chicago, only moreso. But all these theme bars strike me as odd. Aren't there real corner bars there?

Loads of them. We just tend to frequent the places where we can let our geek flags fly.

Although honestly Lovecraft is just a regular bar with a steampunkish 1920s decor.


Celestial Healer wrote:

Hey Patrick, remember how I was saying it is important to let yourself be bored and just live in your own thoughts sometimes? Case in point, if I did not let myself do that the other day I wouldn't have come up with a plot for The Princess and the Pee.

** spoiler omitted **

Amazing!


Treppa wrote:
I love Chicago, but I am dying to see New York. I imagine that it is everything I love about Chicago, only moreso. But all these theme bars strike me as odd. Aren't there real corner bars there?

I wish to visit Chicago at some point.

But it's down the list ATM

I really want to hit LA. I have a friend who is high up in the IT department for Disney and another that DJs LA clubs for a living. They both live in Santa Monica and they both offered me spare rooms. :)


Celestial Healer wrote:
People never do touristy things where they live. You only do those things when people are visiting from out of town. That is pretty much the case no matter where one lives.

Unless you live in central New York, in which case there were no touristy things to do in the first place.


Patrick Curtin wrote:
David M Mallon wrote:
Patrick Curtin wrote:
David M Mallon wrote:
Relevant.
Signals was my favorite Rush album. I love Subdivisions
My favorite album is still Moving Pictures, but "Subdivisions" is definitely one of my top 5 Rush songs.
Moving Pictures is a great album, but I kinda got burned out on it as s youth. That was THE Rush album when I was in high school. I actually saw them on their Grace Under Pressure tour in '84 which was the album directly after Signals and MP

And... you're old.


I also want to hit Miami at some point. I don't think I know anyone that far south in FLA. I have cousins in Tampa and an old gaming/Army buddy in Orlando. I have another friend who lives in Daytona Beach. Some winter I'll get down there


Celestial Healer wrote:
Treppa wrote:
I love Chicago, but I am dying to see New York. I imagine that it is everything I love about Chicago, only moreso. But all these theme bars strike me as odd. Aren't there real corner bars there?

Loads of them. We just tend to frequent the places where we can let our geek flags fly.

Although honestly Lovecraft is just a regular bar with a steampunkish 1920s decor.

Albeit with a higher-than-average tolerance for "oversharing."


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David M Mallon wrote:
Patrick Curtin wrote:
David M Mallon wrote:
Patrick Curtin wrote:
David M Mallon wrote:
Relevant.
Signals was my favorite Rush album. I love Subdivisions
My favorite album is still Moving Pictures, but "Subdivisions" is definitely one of my top 5 Rush songs.
Moving Pictures is a great album, but I kinda got burned out on it as s youth. That was THE Rush album when I was in high school. I actually saw them on their Grace Under Pressure tour in '84 which was the album directly after Signals and MP
And... you're old.

Yeah. That was never in question

Now go get your f#+~ing shine box!


Man my alcohol buzz is fading. You don't feed it frequently, it just dies out. Such A bummer


Patrick Curtin wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:

Hey Patrick, remember how I was saying it is important to let yourself be bored and just live in your own thoughts sometimes? Case in point, if I did not let myself do that the other day I wouldn't have come up with a plot for The Princess and the Pee.

** spoiler omitted **

Amazing!

I recall that somewhere there was another version of the Princess and the Pea where the completely ordinary girl seeking refuge ends in palace and she can't sleep on offered mattress because it's too soft (which is actually a valid source of a backache), she complaints in the morning and the guest reveals that she was testing her with a pea if she is a princess... I can't recall where I read that though...


Treppa wrote:

My 8yo charge gave me a Chewbacca sticker for Star Wars Day. It's on my hand now. :$ *sniffle*

In other news, I bought a German pencil sharpener today. MAN, does it make a point!

I hear they are efficient.


Treppa wrote:
I love Chicago, but I am dying to see New York. I imagine that it is everything I love about Chicago, only moreso. But all these theme bars strike me as odd. Aren't there real corner bars there?

who would go to those things? Oh wait, I would, primarily for the second job. We have them but they are kinda...meh. Not good unless you live on the neighborhood or have friends who live in the neighborhood. Theme bars are better overall.

I'm still upset we didn't get to see the basement at Lovecraft.


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What's in the basement?


You'll see when you visit. You'll be sacrificed to the colour out of space be the guest of honor!


GOOD MORNING TREEFORTNAM!!!

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