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Liberty's Edge

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I'm bad with languages ... or at least I'm bad with the dedication and practise required to learn a language. I know English, a few words and phrases in Spanish, French and Cantonese and that's it.

Obviously my Intelligence is no more than 11 since I don't have any bonus languages.

Liberty's Edge

Oh! How do you say 'sorry, my clothes are inside out' in German?


Patrick Curtin wrote:
aeglos wrote:

Sabines computer broke down and is now with an expert for data recovery :-(

all the baby pics from the girl and 70 pages of life memories from my dad are on this pc without backup

I just found my to do list from the two month parental leave in spring, all boxes ticked with on exeption:

Data backup !!!!!!

aaargh

That's the worst feeling. Been there, paid $100 to fix :(

well, I will almost gladly pay that price if we get the pics and autobiography back

Liberty's Edge

Yeah man, you don't want to lose all that. I hope it is able to be recovered.


Patrick Curtin wrote:

I like studying languages. I am a natural linguistics freak. It's fascinating to see how certain words morph and shift over the different language families.

I love the story of English when it comes to animals and their meat. It tells an interesting story.

After the Norman conquest, the Norman French were in control. Norman French was the 'elite' language, and stayed so for hundreds of years afterwards. Anglo-Saxon became the peasant's tongue. When you look at modern English this dichotomy is evident in the linguistics of meat. The lower class would tend the animals, therefore the animal names stayed Germanic. The upper class ate them, thus their meat names became Latinized.

Cow-Beef
Pig-pork
sheep-mutton

It tells a story without meaning to.

c'

the English word "window" comes from old Germanic "Windauge" wind-eye which means that the germanic huts had just openings in the wall

in German that word was replaced somwhere down history with the Latin word "fenstera"-"fenster"
a lot of Germanic words in modern German has been replaced by more modern words from Latin after the Roman Empire had conquered half of Germany
the Roman-Germanic border, a huge wooden palisade went trough Germany straigth as a arrow, with deforested lands and regular intervall watchtowers, just like 1950 years later just a bit more to the east


Mothman !!!!

mothman sighted !!

how are you?

Liberty's Edge

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aeglos wrote:

Mothman !!!!

mothman sighted !!

how are you?

Good man.

I had a crazy busy day at work tomorrow, but have the day off tomorrow to spend with the kids, followed by game night with our '200 Years of Winter' Pathfinder game, so things are good.

Silver Crusade

Treppa wrote:

I paid a $31 fee on an overnight 13 cent OD. I need to figure the APR on that.

CH, can you do that for me? I'm too lazy.

It's in the bajillions for sure.

Silver Crusade

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John Napier 698 wrote:
31 / .13 = 23846%

That's the nominal percentage paid. But APR is the annualized rate. We would need to know how many days the account was overdrawn by 13 cents to know how long Treppa had use of that prime capital. If, for instance, she left the account overdrawn for 3 business days, you'd have to multiply that percentage by: (number of business days in the year)/3.


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Celestial Healer wrote:
John Napier 698 wrote:
31 / .13 = 23846%
That's the nominal percentage paid. But APR is the annualized rate. We would need to know how many days the account was overdrawn by 13 cents to know how long Treppa had use of that prime capital. If, for instance, she left the account overdrawn for 3 business days, you'd have to multiply that percentage by: (number of business days in the year)/3.

there are words, and they form sentences

but trying to read or understans my eyes unfocus and my mind just turns away


So, (31/.13)X(365.25/3) = 2,903,269%.


Good morning, everyone.


David M Mallon wrote:
Treppa wrote:
Yeah, everybody told me German was so haaaard, so I took French in high school in order to focus on science and math courses instead of language. Then I found conversational German to be really, really natural. 6 weeks of the Berlitz course on tape, and I was ready to find the train station AND the airport.
My mother speaks six languages. She tried to teach me German and Dutch when I was a kid. I took to them like a duck to hot tar.

Five or six years of learning German... I needed to recheck with Google to assemble wishes for Endzeitgeist's birthday.

Note: I have some grasp of grammar, but the vocabulary tends to flee my brain at every possibility. Also, I can't remember which genders are assigned to which nouns in German (hint: each language assigns genders according to its whims, this isn't important in English 99% of time, but both in Polish and in German it is important, well in Polish it is critical in fact)...


Celestial Healer wrote:
John Napier 698 wrote:
31 / .13 = 23846%
That's the nominal percentage paid. But APR is the annualized rate. We would need to know how many days the account was overdrawn by 13 cents to know how long Treppa had use of that prime capital. If, for instance, she left the account overdrawn for 3 business days, you'd have to multiply that percentage by: (number of business days in the year)/3.

The time was overnight, so 1 day.


John Napier 698 wrote:
So, (31/.13)X(365.25/3) = 2,903,269%.

sounds like someone is speaking the devil's tongue...

prepares stake, oil soaked wood


So, around 9 Million Percent. This is as far as I can go without giving Freehold a migraine.


David M Mallon wrote:
Treppa wrote:
I should watch Babylon 5 some day. I've heard good things. Was that the really old show with the robot dog?
I think you're thinking of the original Battlestar Galactica. Babylon 5 is pure 90s sci-fi.

Very old, robot dog... Sounds like old Dr. Who or one of its spin-offs.


Patrick Curtin wrote:
Treppa wrote:
Patrick Curtin wrote:
Excuse the bad German. I'm into day five of Duolingo:D
Oh gods, a paper German!
I've got 18 months or so to get to the "I'd like a beer, where's the bathroom" point. Anything above that is gravy

My German teacher in college was from Bavaria. His name was Dr. Gutzeit (Good Time). He really was a great teacher.

About all I remember from those long ago days is how to order a beer (extend your thumb and say "Ein Bier" or thumb and forefinger or "Zwei Biere). Every now and then I'll hear a phrase or word that rings a bell, but I drank too many beers in college tor remember much more than that (Ich habe zu viele Biere getrunken), if I recall correctly.


Crap...

Spoiler:
Political, not going into details...


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DungeonmasterCal wrote:
Patrick Curtin wrote:
Treppa wrote:
Patrick Curtin wrote:
Excuse the bad German. I'm into day five of Duolingo:D
Oh gods, a paper German!
I've got 18 months or so to get to the "I'd like a beer, where's the bathroom" point. Anything above that is gravy

My German teacher in college was from Bavaria. His name was Dr. Gutzeit (Good Time). He really was a great teacher.

About all I remember from those long ago days is how to order a beer (extend your thumb and say "Ein Bier" or thumb and forefinger or "Zwei Biere). Every now and then I'll hear a phrase or word that rings a bell, but I drank too many beers in college tor remember much more than that (Ich habe zu viele Biere getrunken), if I recall correctly.

you had a teacher called Dr. Goodtime who taught you to order beer ??

sounds like the lyrics of an 80s hair metal song


Drejk wrote:

Crap...

** spoiler omitted **

I think I know what you mean


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DungeonmasterCal wrote:
Patrick Curtin wrote:
Treppa wrote:
Patrick Curtin wrote:
Excuse the bad German. I'm into day five of Duolingo:D
Oh gods, a paper German!
I've got 18 months or so to get to the "I'd like a beer, where's the bathroom" point. Anything above that is gravy

My German teacher in college was from Bavaria. His name was Dr. Gutzeit (Good Time). He really was a great teacher.

About all I remember from those long ago days is how to order a beer (extend your thumb and say "Ein Bier" or thumb and forefinger or "Zwei Biere). Every now and then I'll hear a phrase or word that rings a bell, but I drank too many beers in college tor remember much more than that (Ich habe zu viele Biere getrunken), if I recall correctly.

I had an Arabic teacher named Mumtaz (excellent). His favorite greeting to us was "Ana Mumtaz, wa...Ana mumtaz!' ( I am Mumtaz and I am excellent)


I managed to get through High School, and three colleges without taking any foreign languages. Yep. Not one day.

Grandfathered in when they first passed the law that required HS to teach foreign languages,

'Legally' traded in my Foreign language credits for other 'Humanities' courses in Jr College,

Due to having a AA degree, neither my BS or MS required any foreign languages. :)

Do I regret not taking any other language classes? Sometimes, a little bit. Yeah. I'll admit that. :/

Really wish I had gotten to take some thing before I spent 2 weeks traveling through Europe on that 'Tour the Rhine River, without actually touching the river once' trip in college. :)

But, it made getting through my college years a whole lot easier, NOT having to worry about a foreign language! :D

On an interesting note, our tour guide on the afore-mentioned trip was young (not too much older than us Jr College kids) he spoke 12 languages, and was learning 6 more at the same time!
His explanation was, once you've learned the root languages, all of the others fall into place pretty quickly and easily. ;)


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Ragadolf wrote:
His explanation was, once you've learned the root languages, all of the others fall into place pretty quickly and easily. ;)

Unless your brain breaks. I also have the problem of speaking pidgin. all non-English languages get classified as foreign. If I try to say something in, frexample, German but I don't have the correct word, I'll plug it in from French or Spanish if I know it there. It makes a mess. And I'd make a crappy spy.


There was a Swedish girl in our class one semester. She spoke 6 languages, one of which was Danish. Herr Gutzeit made this sort of comedic sign against evil and said anyone who could learn Danish must be in league with the devil. He himself spoke 7 languages, but he said he could never master Danish.


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The languages I've heard are tough are Dutch and Finnish. Finnish because it's not really related to anything, and Dutch because, to speak it properly, you need to both gargle and cough while talking.


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I barely speak English properly, much less any other language.


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What, no Draconic?


I'm always intrigued by historical/obscure languages. I'd like to learn Middle English/Old Norse/Faeroese/Basque/Latin/Gaelic


But, alas, the time. And the brainage


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Treppa wrote:
What, no Draconic?

I blame adventurers and their damn spears. ~pulls a spear out of my head, cleans my teeth, then puts it back~


Hey there, PC. I hope that your night goes well.


Yours too, Sharoth. :)


Ugh.


"Ugh" makes it sound like the night isn't going so well.


Meh. Just a disappointment. Nothing serious


Looks like I'm not going to make it down to NYC this weekend-- got called in to work open to close on Sunday. Probably a better financial decision in any case.


Sorry to hear it David


Half done. Yay


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Beautiful night tonight out in the foothills. Clear sky, waxing moon, lots of stars. I even saw shooting stars tonight! Another carrier saw a bear last night.

Good times.


AWWWWWWWWW
I wanted to show you pics from the con...


Treppa wrote:

Beautiful night tonight out in the foothills. Clear sky, waxing moon, lots of stars. I even saw shooting stars tonight! Another carrier saw a bear last night.

Good times.

Woooooow


Man, lots to do today. Lots to do ...


Treppa wrote:
The languages I've heard are tough are Dutch and Finnish. Finnish because it's not really related to anything, and Dutch because, to speak it properly, you need to both gargle and cough while talking.

Finnish is related to Hungarian, both people came as a big Babarian inavsion horde, then split into a northern and southern horde which settled in Finnland and Hungary


the only European Language without any relatives or Indogermanic roots is Basque.
The Basques seems to be the original european Natives everyone else sometime in History invaded from Asia


And Elvish. I always wanted to speak Elvish


Learn Welsh. I think that's what Tolkien based it off of.


Just be warned, Welsh is a hard language to learn.


Combination of Welsh and Finnish, I think..

Silver Crusade

Treppa wrote:
Celestial Healer wrote:
John Napier 698 wrote:
31 / .13 = 23846%
That's the nominal percentage paid. But APR is the annualized rate. We would need to know how many days the account was overdrawn by 13 cents to know how long Treppa had use of that prime capital. If, for instance, she left the account overdrawn for 3 business days, you'd have to multiply that percentage by: (number of business days in the year)/3.
The time was overnight, so 1 day.

If we use a 365 day year, APR is 8,703,846%.

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