Stacking Mind-affecting Spells- "Challenge Evil"


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I have a question on Challenge Evil and maybe mind-affecting spells in general.

In my game I have a Paladin with this spell. Now that is all find and dandy but he has a Squire Paladin who will eventually gain spells also. What happens if they both cast Challenge Evil http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/c/challenge-evil on the same target? Will second application of the spell override the first application those changing "ownership"? Or will both paladins double team the enemy where he is always sickened unless he has an aoe/multi attack that can hit both paladins?

This question was for Challenge Evil but what about other mind-affecting spells in general? For example: Dominate Person? http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/d/dominate-person Do both dominators share the creature or does the second one override the first one? Can the second one even be applied?


From the 'combining magical effects' section of the PRD:

For challenge evil, the latest challenge would probably override the first as per this text:

"Same Effect with Differing Results: The same spell can sometimes produce varying effects if applied to the same recipient more than once. Usually the last spell in the series trumps the others. None of the previous spells are actually removed or dispelled, but their effects become irrelevant while the final spell in the series lasts."

Although I admit it is ambiguous.

Mental control is very clearly spelled out, however:

"Multiple Mental Control Effects: Sometimes magical effects that establish mental control render each other irrelevant, such as spells that remove the subject's ability to act. Mental controls that don't remove the recipient's ability to act usually do not interfere with each other. If a creature is under the mental control of two or more creatures, it tends to obey each to the best of its ability, and to the extent of the control each effect allows. If the controlled creature receives conflicting orders simultaneously, the competing controllers must make opposed Charisma checks to determine which one the creature obeys."

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