Retraining Class

[Lucia Deedlit]

I have a
lvl 1 Fighter
lvl 2 wizard (transmuter)
lvl 3 Fighter
lvl 4 wizard (transmuter)
lvl 5 wizard (transmuter)
lvl 6 wizard (transmuter)
lvl 7 wizard (transmuter)

And I want to retrain my level 3 fighter to Wizard (transmuter)

I lose the aditional feat for lvl 2 fighter.

The question is: Can I choose what combat feat can I lose for the retrain?.

[Nefreet]

To ensure your question gets the attention it deserves I flagged your thread to be moved over to the Rules Questions Forum.

But, to answer your question, you would lose the feat you gained from that level of Fighter.

[BigNorseWolf]

No. I think you have to track the feats that you pick up with fighter in case you get the (seldom relevant) retrain a fighter bonus feat option.

[Lucia Deedlit]

The problem is that I lose a feat that I did gain with fighter 2 ( one of: Arcane armor training or Point blank (wich I should not fail to keep because I have two other related to this one), or if I can choose I will lose weapon specialization Composite longbow.

[SCPRedMage]

How do you have Weapon Specialization when you only have two levels of fighter?

[BigNorseWolf]

Lucia Deedlit wrote:

The problem is that I lose a feat that I did gain with fighter 2 ( one of: Arcane armor training or Point blank (wich I should not fail to keep because I have two other related to this one), or if I can choose I will lose weapon specialization Composite longbow.

You generally can't do any training that pulls the bottom blocks out of the jenga tower

[Nefreet]

BigNorseWolf wrote:

Lucia Deedlit wrote:

The problem is that I lose a feat that I did gain with fighter 2 ( one of: Arcane armor training or Point blank (wich I should not fail to keep because I have two other related to this one), or if I can choose I will lose weapon specialization Composite longbow.

You generally can't do any training that pulls the bottom blocks out of the jenga tower

It is possible. You couldn't retrain Weapon Focus from level 1 if you had Weapon Specialization at Level 4, but you can retrain a class level that granted you Weapon Focus as a Bonus Feat just fine. In this latter case you would temporarily lose access to Weapon Specialization until you acquired Weapon Focus again from somewhere else.

This exact possibility is actually covered in Ultimate Campaign.

[kinevon]

SCPRedMage wrote:

How do you have Weapon Specialization when you only have two levels of fighter?

It was a level 3 fighter, not 2, but the question is still relevant, since Weapon Specialization has a prerequisite of 4th level Fighter...

Also, to verify, you are planning on retraining all three levels of Fighter into 3 levels of Wizard (Transmuter)?

That will, of course, take 21 PP to do, since I don't think Fighter and Wizard have any sort of synergy...

Feats mentioned during this discussion:
Weapon Focus (Longbow)
Weapon Specialization (Longbow) - probably illegal
Point-Blank Shot
Arcane Armor Training

Since Weapon Specialization is, under regular rules, illegal for the current build, you would have to change it to a legal feat anyhow.

Weapon Specialization
Prerequisites: Proficiency with selected weapon, Weapon Focus with selected weapon, fighter level 4th.

[Lucia Deedlit]

Correction weapon focus not specialization. Sorry.
And I am going to retrain just one level of fighter.

[Nefreet]

Whatever bonus feat you received from that level of Fighter goes away.

[SCPRedMage]

kinevon wrote:

It was a level 3 fighter, not 2

No, it was level 2 fighter; the list in his original post shows she took fighter at levels 1 and 3, and wizard at level 2 and 4+.

Moot point, seeing as she clarified that it was Weapon Focus.

[kinevon]

SCPRedMage wrote:

kinevon wrote:

It was a level 3 fighter, not 2

No, it was level 2 fighter; the list in his original post shows she took fighter at levels 1 and 3, and wizard at level 2 and 4+.

Moot point, seeing as she clarified that it was Weapon Focus.

Odd, I took it as a list of PCs, myself.

Too many PFS PCs, I guess.

[Lucia Deedlit]

Finally I retrained a Level (Fighter)and Feat (Weapon Focus)... that was expensive...