Clarification on Drow Blooded


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Okay, so the last time I checked Additional Resources I was positive that it said Drow Descended Half Elves were not legal. Like it explicitly mentioned them. I checked it again today and I swear I didn't see that explicitly stated in the rules for Half Elves.

I am dead certain Half Drows are still illegal, someone please just confirm it.

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Additional Resources: Pathfinder RPG Advanced Race Guide wrote:
Half-Elves: all alernate (sic) racial traits except drow-blooded and drow magic are legal for play; all racial subtypes except drow-descended are legal for play

Still the case on the website and in the PDF of 23 December.

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Starglim wrote:
Additional Resources: Pathfinder RPG Advanced Race Guide wrote:
Half-Elves: all alernate (sic) racial traits except drow-blooded and drow magic are legal for play; all racial subtypes except drow-descended are legal for play
Still the case on the website and in the PDF of 23 December.

Ah ha! Knew it! I was checking the wrong book. Thank god because I thought I was about to be seeing a lot more purple people at my local gaming table.

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As GM you're given leeway to include random encounters of Purple People Eaters (specifically of the one-eyed, one-horned, flying variety).

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Nefreet wrote:
As GM you're given leeway to include random encounters of Purple People Eaters (specifically of the one-eyed, one-horned, flying variety).

Oh. I did not know that.

I guess if they ever legalize Dusk Elves or Half Drow, I can help thin the herd.

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There is no element of character creation for PFS that is more frequently used incorrectly than the half-drow. I've seen about six half-drow characters in PFS, who are very disappointed when it's pointed out that their racial traits are illegal.

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thecursor wrote:
Nefreet wrote:
As GM you're given leeway to include random encounters of Purple People Eaters (specifically of the one-eyed, one-horned, flying variety).

Oh. I did not know that.

I guess if they ever legalize Dusk Elves or Half Drow, I can help thin the herd.

Oh, no, he was joking. You're not allowed to alter scenarios in PFS. Please don't add monsters.

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The Morphling wrote:
There is no element of character creation for PFS that is more frequently used incorrectly than the half-drow. I've seen about six half-drow characters in PFS, who are very disappointed when it's pointed out that their racial traits are illegal.

I see your half-drow and raise you the racial vs race traits fiasco.

"No, you can't use Adopted to get the human bonus feat. Yes, I'm sure."

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Muser wrote:
The Morphling wrote:
There is no element of character creation for PFS that is more frequently used incorrectly than the half-drow. I've seen about six half-drow characters in PFS, who are very disappointed when it's pointed out that their racial traits are illegal.

I see your half-drow and raise you the racial vs race traits fiasco.

"No, you can't use Adopted to get the human bonus feat. Yes, I'm sure."

All. The. Time.

sigh

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Kalindlara wrote:
Muser wrote:
The Morphling wrote:
There is no element of character creation for PFS that is more frequently used incorrectly than the half-drow. I've seen about six half-drow characters in PFS, who are very disappointed when it's pointed out that their racial traits are illegal.

I see your half-drow and raise you the racial vs race traits fiasco.

"No, you can't use Adopted to get the human bonus feat. Yes, I'm sure."

All. The. Time.

sigh

Not seen it that much here. Or the Drow bit. Hmmm... Had a few folks try to do 3rd party stuff one.

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The Fourth Horseman wrote:
thecursor wrote:
Nefreet wrote:
As GM you're given leeway to include random encounters of Purple People Eaters (specifically of the one-eyed, one-horned, flying variety).

Oh. I did not know that.

I guess if they ever legalize Dusk Elves or Half Drow, I can help thin the herd.

Oh, no, he was joking. You're not allowed to alter scenarios in PFS. Please don't add monsters.

Sorry, just like local Town Guards, you can always bring in a one-eyed, one-horned, flying purple people eater of the Drowinator variety.

Whether you can also force the Drow to wear a yellow polka-dotted bikini is a different question...

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Wait, they are Eaters of Purple People? I thought they were People Eaters that also just happened to be Purple! Man, this whole business is complicated...

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Worse, it turns out the Purple People Eaters also have levels in Mesmerist now.

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bdk86 wrote:
Worse, it turns out the Purple People Eaters also have levels in Mesmerist now.

I thought they had levels in Bard or maybe Skald. Did they retrain?

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Kalindlara wrote:
Muser wrote:
The Morphling wrote:
There is no element of character creation for PFS that is more frequently used incorrectly than the half-drow. I've seen about six half-drow characters in PFS, who are very disappointed when it's pointed out that their racial traits are illegal.

I see your half-drow and raise you the racial vs race traits fiasco.

"No, you can't use Adopted to get the human bonus feat. Yes, I'm sure."

All. The. Time.

sigh

Wait, REALLY? Wow. I think I would die from facepalming so hard.

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The Morphling wrote:
Kalindlara wrote:
Muser wrote:
The Morphling wrote:
There is no element of character creation for PFS that is more frequently used incorrectly than the half-drow. I've seen about six half-drow characters in PFS, who are very disappointed when it's pointed out that their racial traits are illegal.

I see your half-drow and raise you the racial vs race traits fiasco.

"No, you can't use Adopted to get the human bonus feat. Yes, I'm sure."

All. The. Time.

sigh

Wait, REALLY? Wow. I think I would die from facepalming so hard.

"Have you determined the cause of death, Detective?"

"Yep, facepalmed clean through his skull."

"Nasty way to go."

"Yep."

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The Morphling wrote:
Kalindlara wrote:
Muser wrote:
The Morphling wrote:
There is no element of character creation for PFS that is more frequently used incorrectly than the half-drow. I've seen about six half-drow characters in PFS, who are very disappointed when it's pointed out that their racial traits are illegal.

I see your half-drow and raise you the racial vs race traits fiasco.

"No, you can't use Adopted to get the human bonus feat. Yes, I'm sure."

All. The. Time.

sigh

Wait, REALLY? Wow. I think I would die from facepalming so hard.

It's mostly from the really new people, who haven't figured out the key difference between the two terms. It's kind of understandable, since the game's language isn't always as precise as Magic: The Gathering.

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Kalindlara wrote:
It's mostly from the really new people, who haven't figured out the key difference between the two terms. It's kind of understandable, since the game's language isn't always as precise as Magic: The Gathering.

Having played Magic in the early days, it was not nearly as precise. Seems every gaming system needs to refine itself over time as it grows.

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Kalindlara wrote:
It's mostly from the really new people, who haven't figured out the key difference between the two terms. It's kind of understandable, since the game's language isn't always as precise as Magic: The Gathering.

Our really new people are typically in the phase of "Should I play a fighter or a ranger for my archer," not "This loophole looks hilarious, I wonder if a medium-size creature can fit through it."

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Gary Bush wrote:
Kalindlara wrote:
It's mostly from the really new people, who haven't figured out the key difference between the two terms. It's kind of understandable, since the game's language isn't always as precise as Magic: The Gathering.
Having played Magic in the early days, it was not nearly as precise. Seems every gaming system needs to refine itself over time as it grows.

I remember - I've been around since Ice Age. ^_^

Pathfinder is moving in a more precise direction, but a lot of stuff (especially in the CRB) still uses a lot of legacy wording meant for a system where the GM was expected to make rulings on vague stuff.

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The Morphling wrote:
Kalindlara wrote:
It's mostly from the really new people, who haven't figured out the key difference between the two terms. It's kind of understandable, since the game's language isn't always as precise as Magic: The Gathering.
Our really new people are typically in the phase of "Should I play a fighter or a ranger for my archer," not "This loophole looks hilarious, I wonder if a medium-size creature can fit through it."

Most of them don't think they're exploiting a loophole - they assume that that's the intended function of Adopted.

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Kalindlara wrote:
I remember - I've been around since Ice Age. ^_^

Ah, yes, way before "the stack", back when Counterspell was still an "Interrupt", and before Zombie Lord was an actual Zombie.

I started when Revised was released and for like 15 years after. Lots of memories =)

...and I weep every time I see how much dual lands are selling for =(

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ok - missed a save.

Yeah, and I'll brake out my old Red Alpha Deck, with the Orcish Oraflames and all the old mis-prints... (Gauntlets of Might anyone?).

sorry, couldn't resist... the line "... I've been around since Ice Age...." made me realize I was drifting out of playing Magic about then...

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Wow, yeah.

I started around 'Legends', stopped around 'Unglued'. It's amazing how much of a damper 'treating the cards as collectables' versus 'a Sunday night drinking game with the guys and gals' puts on things.

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Nefreet wrote:
...and I weep every time I see how much dual lands are selling for =(

Dual Lands are nothing, I live in one of the few places in the world where the darkened print summer magic cards went on sale before they recalled them in the transition between Revised and 4th. Basic Lands used to sell for $20 each back in the mid 90's. Now they are selling for $200 each.

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Kalindlara wrote:
I remember - I've been around since Ice Age. ^_^

I stop just after Ice Age. Got to be too much money for a young 20 something on his own.

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Nefreet wrote:
...and I weep every time I see how much dual lands are selling for =(

I made a killing on my dual lands so I am happy.

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Nefreet wrote:
Kalindlara wrote:
I remember - I've been around since Ice Age. ^_^

Ah, yes, way before "the stack", back when Counterspell was still an "Interrupt", and before Zombie Lord was an actual Zombie.

I started when Revised was released and for like 15 years after. Lots of memories =)

...and I weep every time I see how much dual lands are selling for =(

I got in when Unlimited and Arabian Nights were out and have owned basically everything from those early days people drool over. When I sold my collection I paid off the last of my college loans and put a nice down payment on a car. I saw what a beta Black Lotus was going for a while back and almost had a heart attack.

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Jessex wrote:

I got in when Unlimited and Arabian Nights were out and have owned basically everything from those early days people drool over. When I sold my collection I paid off the last of my college loans and put a nice down payment on a car. I saw what a beta Black Lotus was going for a while back and almost had a heart attack.

I started at the tail end of revised. I left at around Tempest. I bought my first car with the money I made selling my collection.

Of course if I had never bought the damn things in the first place I could have saved the money and had a much nicer car.

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PFS needs to fund a home for the old gamers, who remember 'the good old days'. Not as a status symbol, but so we don't have the older nerds hurting themselves walking into traffic or anything while talking about how Magic sucked after the removal of Mana Burn.

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They removed Mana Burn?!

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Nefreet wrote:
They removed Mana Burn?!

Yes, they did.

From what I have seen, as an antique (Unlimited, and the tail-end of Arabian Nights), it makes a change in tactics. I know it would massively affect my old Urza deck, as it would make the scaling Mana production of the Tower/Mine/Power Plant much less of a hassle to handle...

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Yeah, my buddy relied on mana burning his opponents with his most infamous Mana Flare lockdown deck.

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Nowadays, Magic is essentially a different game from when it first came out back in the early 90's. I still miss combat damage not going on the stack anymore, even though that's been changed for a good while.

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