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So..what about the other four, Freehold?


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Thomas Seitz wrote:
I'm not that salty about Hal...just the amount of humans running *1* sector. I mean it takes 5 humans?!

Yeah, well, things get weird when your homeworld is the source of all life in the universe and all the writers live there.


I dunno if I believe the Life Entity any more...


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Thomas Seitz wrote:
I dunno if I believe the Life Entity any more...

I'm being good and not channeling Doctor Ian Malcom right now, and you should be grateful, because the quotes and puns that are fighting to get out of my brain are vast, and legion. ;)


I think Earth Sector is just Jessy and Simon. (Beat Cops)

John is Force leader (IE: Chief of Police)

Guy is like SWAT + IA rolled into one, answerable directly to the Guardians

and Kyle is like some weird special job thing dealing with the other ring groups.

Hal is like a Detective or Captain or someting with special circumstances due to constant promotion and demotion and making his own ring and stuff. IE: Action Movie Cop


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Grey,

You're being more generous about those things than I am. But they do work.

Jem,

You don't have to be good on my account.


Oi.....Robin WTF?!

Yo Batman, you need to step up and discipline your boy


John is my favorite. Guy is...an acquired taste at best. Jessy and Simon I avoid. Rond Vidar was my original, and is second only to John.

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I liked what the writers did with Kyle when he first got the ring.
Hated what they did to him when the corps and Hal came back.

Jess should drop Simon like a hot potato and go on her own.
All the rest are has-beens who should be retired permanently.

They should never have brought Hal Jordan, Oliver Queen nor Barry Allen back from the dead.
The DC universe was better without them.


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Charles Scholz wrote:

I liked what the writers did with Kyle when he first got the ring.

Hated what they did to him when the corps and Hal came back.

Jess should drop Simon like a hot potato and go on her own.
All the rest are has-beens who should be retired permanently.

They should never have brought Hal Jordan, Oliver Queen nor Barry Allen back from the dead.
The DC universe was better without them.

Say what now?


Not sure I agree that Hal Jordan is a HAS-BEEN...but never quite bought the idea we needed MORE than One Lantern per Comic book age...

Also while I get frustrated with Barry, I was okay with him coming back because it SEEMED like Geoff Johns knew what he was doing...

Now I'm less sure.


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I will say this about Bendis on Superman

It is facinating seeing how Crime has adapted to big blue


That's probably the ONLY reason that Bendis should be doing Superman, writing a plot where Superman doesn't know the local criminals have adapted to the point they can commit crime and he doesn't know about it.

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Freehold DM wrote:
John is my favorite. Guy is...an acquired taste at best. Jessy and Simon I avoid. Rond Vidar was my original, and is second only to John.

John is my favorite human GL. Mostly because he's an architect (or at least he was, not sure if they still write him that way), which is close enough to being an engineer.

The other reason he's my favorite human GL is because I was introduced to the character via Cosmic Odyssey, one of my all time favorite mini-series. I think his story arc from that series on was pretty damned compelling.

My favorite non-human GL was Salaak.

I don't collect any of the GL books anymore, though. Too many human lanterns for my taste, and all that stuff with the multiple color rings, Volthoom, and the Guardians turning evil ended up burning me out on eveyrthing GL.

I might go back to it one day, as I've started to do with Batman (collecting only Detective and Nightwing).


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My favorite GL is Mogo. :p


Not my favorite, but the GL I found most interesting was Driq. Dude's ring kept him functioning even after his body died. That's dedication.

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My favorite Green Lantern is Rot Lop Fan.

"In loudest din or hush profound,
My ears catch evil's slightest sound.
Let those who toll out evil's knell
Beware my power, the F-Sharp Bell!"


So this week's Justice League is kind of weird...but different.

I mean if you went into the future and found out every one in a million years told you "Yes you were right!" that's kind of convincing...


We also have a super intelligent virus and an advanced math equation


Thomas Seitz wrote:

So this week's Justice League is kind of weird...but different.

I mean if you went into the future and found out every one in a million years told you "Yes you were right!" that's kind of convincing...

Yeah, if I was Lex I'd be feeling pretty validated right now, cause damn that is a heck of a thing to have tossed in your face.


Grey,

Yeah it's especially validating now that he doesn't have to hide that he can be just as much himself as the rest of us...or something.

Philip,

I'm assuming you're still talking about GL ring bearers...


So....Superman issue #2

Am I crazy or was that the villain from Superman 4;The Quest for Peace?


Grey,

No you weren't imaging it. Bendis brought back Nuclear Man. Which is dumb. But that's Bendis for you.


Tangentially related to relaunching, I was looking at DC's solicitations for December...

...Freedom Fighters #1 (of 12). Set on Earth-X (I guess that's been changed from Earth-10 in the comics as well as the CWverse) in 2018, with a new team of Freedom Fighters. I do loves me some classic Freedom Fighters (some of their costumes notwithstanding) but I don't like buying blind*. I may not like the new team, which will be new incarnations of the Human Bomb, Black Condor, Doll [Wo]man, and Phantom Lady. Uncle Sam is MIA but I imagine he'll return near the end of the series. Anyone heard anything more about this?

*Mycomicshop.com is my comic supplier of choice and gives 35% off the cover price of new comics preordered within about a four-week window after each Diamond PREVIEWS comes out. But if I use it here, I could be ordering issue #3 before #1 is released. And if I wait until #1 hits the stands, I miss the discount window on the first couple of issues. Decisions, decisions.

...Martian Manhunter #1. A "reinvention of the Martian Manhunter casts him as a corrupt cop on Mars, and something something "change his life -- and the course of the Earth -- forever!" Really? Skipping this.

...Hawkman #7. "The origin of Hawkman revealed! Blah blah "...the truth behind Carter Hall's reincarnation ability..." Yes. Because that's definitely what Hawkman needed, another origin story. Can Power Girl be far behind? I'd guess perhaps Carter's serial reincarnations may be tied to his having acted as the Forger, a being of creation in the Dark Multiverse, except that IIRC he [i]wasn't[/] the Forger until Barbatos brought him there. I haven't been reading Hawkman, so I'll probably skip this and read about it later. Perhaps here.

Superman #6. "Whatever you do, do not skip to the last page -- the end of this issue changes the lives of Superman and his family forever..." Sigh. I haven't been reading Superman, so I'll probably skip this and read about it later.

Nightwing 54-55. "Confronted with a past he's worked so desperately to escape, will Dick Grayson answer the challenge by becoming Nightwing...or something else? The newest chapter in the evolution of Dick Grayson reaches its next level!" I haven't been reading...oh, you know.


Damon,

With regards to Dick, he got head shotted and now has amnesia. No idea how badly.

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Damon Griffin wrote:


...Martian Manhunter #1. A "reinvention of the Martian Manhunter casts him as a corrupt cop on Mars, and something something "change his life -- and the course of the Earth -- forever!" Really? Skipping this.

Ye gods, that sounds idiotic. Thanks for the warning. I'll skip this as well.

Damon Griffin wrote:

...Hawkman #7. "The origin of Hawkman revealed! Blah blah "...the truth behind Carter Hall's reincarnation ability..." Yes. Because that's definitely what Hawkman needed, another origin story. Can Power Girl be far behind? I'd guess perhaps Carter's serial reincarnations may be tied to his having acted as the Forger, a being of creation in the Dark Multiverse, except that IIRC he [i]wasn't[/] the Forger until Barbatos brought him there. I haven't been reading Hawkman, so I'll probably skip this and read about it later. Perhaps here.

I've been enjoying Hawkman so far, but possibly because out side of Justice League and JSA, I never really had much invested in the character.

Damon Griffin wrote:


Nightwing 54-55. "Confronted with a past he's worked so desperately to escape, will Dick Grayson answer the challenge by becoming Nightwing...or something else? The newest chapter in the evolution of Dick Grayson reaches its next level!" I haven't been reading...oh, you know.

Thankfully, I had already recently dropped Nightwing. The rehash of his time in Bludhaven was already becoming boring. To top it off, being pissed with how they've treated Wally West, I had already dropped Flash and Titans, so Nightwing was probably not too far behind anyway.

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Heroes in Crisis.
The previews said it was about heroes talking about their feelings after a battle that may have been too emotional for them (Doomsday, Bane, etc...).
It sounded like a good premise.

Some graphic description.:
Now it has become a Murder Mystery, with some top name people dead.
Wally West (original) and Roy Harper dead, just to name a few.
Dead bodies and blood everywhere.
I did not like the scene where a 2" tall dead Blue Jay was ripped apart by crows.

No way this would have passed the old Comics Code Authority.
"Scenes of excessive violence shall be prohibited. Scenes of brutal torture, excessive and unnecessary knife and gunplay, physical agony, the gory and gruesome crime shall be eliminated."


I dunno about comics code, but I don't see the need to murder everyone just to deal with heroes having traumatic experiences.

That and I hate they murdered a certain Speedster for the lolz..


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Aberzombie wrote:
Thankfully, I had already recently dropped Nightwing. The rehash of his time in Bludhaven was already becoming boring. To top it off, being pissed with how they've treated Wally West, I had already dropped Flash and Titans, so Nightwing was probably not too far behind anyway.

Although I wasn't reading Nightwing, I had been reading Titans until recently. I dropped it when, having just come off of Dick being a mole within the group, they've set M'gann up in the same role. Different motivation? Don't care. Plus, as you say, mistreating Wally.


Charles Scholz wrote:

Heroes in Crisis.

** spoiler omitted **

I opted for once-monthly shipments from MyComicShop.com so I'm almost always reading things weeks after y'all do. I don't mind spoilers, and almost always click through to get as much information as I can.

Huh. I'd understood that HIC was going to open with a murder, and from a group of six candidates presented in DC Nation it appears I picked the right victim. I didn't realize there was more than one (up front.)


Damon,

Yep, there are at least 6 bodies, including the one you picked.


I just have to comment that everytime this thread resurfaces after not seeing any activity for a bit, I'm like "They're relaunching everything <b>again</b>?"

But yeah, I'm with Damon in getting a once a month shipment, so I often don't have much to say until long after it's relevant. Also not really paying attention to any of the big events or stuff. Or following much of DC at all at the moment, though I'm looking forward to Morrison on Green Lantern and Robinson on Detective.


thejeff,

No but if they are going to do relaunch, I'm betting it's after they get Doomsday Clock done. At least...that's my theory atm.


Nah, thejeff. I just figured that "whole new direction!" treatments of several characters was close enough to a relaunch to post in this thread.

Yeah, I know what you mean about following big events. It's getting harder for me all the time.

When DC did New52, I was turned off some completely that I dropped the entire line. A little later I decided, out of pre-Crisis Earth-2 nostalgia, that I'd take a look at their Earth-2 and World's Finest titles. Massively disappointed there, so I tuned out again until Convergence, which I also found to be a real mess.

No one who knows me would describe me as an optimist, so I don't know why I kept going back to DC again and again, but I decided to try some of the Rebirth titles. Some worked better than others for me, and for those that didn't, it's possible that a contributing factor was that I wasn't following the wider DC comics universe at that point, so it was harder to make sense of some things.

I bought Metal and the bare minimum tie-ins to more or less follow that story, but since I hadn't been reading Batman or Detective for years, I was confused by the references of Batman being infused with various exotic metals. And I wasn't sure how I felt about the concept of an entire Dark Multiverse where worlds are constantly destroyed, or a Forge in the Dark'verse being the source of all the familiar worlds. Plus, Hawkman's background gets even more convoluted.

Now before sorting out much of the aftermath of that, the Source Wall has been breached, the Ghost Sector introduced, No Justice reveals Mystery, Wonder, Entropy and Wisdom as the four pillars of...what was it? creation? existence?

TOO MUCH, TOO FAST!

My DC subscriptions had already dwindled to Doomsday Clock, Flash, Green Lanterns, Hal Jordan and...Corps, Terrifics and Titans. Now both Green Lanterns titles have been cancelled, I've already dropped Titans, I'm on the verge of dropping Flash after Flash War and the introduction of new Forces, and the only thing in Terrifics keeping my interest is Tom Strong. I may or may not pick up the new GL title.

Meantime, having been absent as a reader for decades, I find Marvel to be an unrecognizable mess, the ultimate expression of chaos. Trying to go back now would risk my sanity. How many concurrent Spider-whatevers, Venoms, Hulks, Thors, Wolverines, X-teams, etc. does one really need? And "Gwenpool"? Really? I think Marvel's current output must be based on a great deal of drink, recreational drugs, a spinning dartboard and multiple random number generators.

/rant ends


Whole new direction seems kind of what they keep yelling after the whole post Flashpoint/Nu-52 stuff.


Have to say...not happy right now.

I do have to wonder if the rumors of this being about a power struggle between Didio and Jones have any truth to them.


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Thomas Seitz wrote:
Whole new direction seems kind of what they keep yelling after the whole post Flashpoint/Nu-52 stuff.

Okay, but they should pick a direction and stick with it for a while.

I know I was reading DC at age 9. That's almost 50 years ago. Can't remember when I started Marvel or what my introduction was but it couldn't have been too long after. I have decades invested in the Big Two. I don't want to abandon them for independents only, but more and more I feel like they've abandoned me.


Grey,

It seems like it might be the case.


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What really annoys me was "Wally's story will continue over in Heroes in Crisis" and then they do this.

Really feels like a kick in the nads from that Nelson kid on Simpsons


It was most definitely that, Grey. I blame Dido but that's unproved at this point...


....and now Nightwing.....

Between the comics and the god awful looking TV show, I can't help but think "someone really hates the Titans right now don't they."


Actually the second trailer seems to be an improvement. If slightly. Mostly I agree that now Nightwing getting shot is just...terrible.


With the additional information in DC Nation #5 I've decided to pick up Freedom Fighters.

I'm having irrational knee-jerk reactions to some other things...

SHAZAM! #1 "Billy will discover a secret within the Rock of Eternity, which will send him on a journey that will ultimately reveal a much bigger plan for the Rock, and what its role is in the universe...[it'll] redefine Shazam, his family, many of the villains and the idea of magic in the DC Universe...Shazam and the Seven Realms begins!" So, a retcon affecting all Shazam characters, and additional "realms" being shoehorned into the Multiverse.

AQUAMAN #42 "Aquaman goes on a spiritual quest to learn more about his own origin story...

JUSTICE LEAGUE #12 "Poseidon reveals the shocking truth behind the origins of Atlantis..."

DROWNED EARTH crossover event "As punishment for an ancient Atlantean (one guess who that was) banishing them to the Graveyard of Gods (aaaand another realm), the cosmic sea gods, led by the cruel and cunning Captain Tyyde..." Okay, stop. A god named Captain Tyyde.

HEROES IN CRISIS #3 "Another layer peels back in the vast mystery woven through the entire DC universe." ARE YOU KIDDING ME HERE?

JUSTICE LEAGUE DARK #5 "...Detective Chimp's inherited, magical realm of Nyrra..." Not certain Nyrra is new. But (a) why would Detective Chimp inherit a magical realm, and (b) didn't I read elsewhere in the magazine that he had melted into a puddle? Right, the "big threat" write-up on the Upside-Down Man.

FLASH #58 "...Barry must leave Central City behind and travel the world to learn the secret history of the Speed Force." Well, at least it's not a "new origin". I wonder why the world tour, though? Someone write the secret history down on tablets or scrolls and purposely scatter them? Also, forgot to register the complaint last time that since the Speed Force is shown as a location on the Multiverse map, the Strength, Sage and Still Forces apparently constitute additional new dimensions as well.

LEGION OF DOOM No specific issue. Sounds like this one may be "old news" I just wasn't aware of: "Lex [Luthor]...uncovered the existence of seven unknown energies in the universe...Luthor is determined to harness those energies and "free" humanity..." Apparently Luthor recently learned humanity's "true purpose" -- to be the apex predator in the universe. Okay, that's just a plotline, not a new energy, realm, or retcon. I'm just curious about where he learned that "truth."


On the other hand

Young Justice is back; staring Conner, Bart and Tim
written by Bendis


Greylurker wrote:

On the other hand

Young Justice is back; staring Conner, Bart and Tim
written by Bendis

Comic or cartoon? I enjoyed the first two cartoon seasons, but I don't stream from Netflix and won't be subscribing to the DCU streaming service.


Damon Griffin wrote:
Greylurker wrote:

On the other hand

Young Justice is back; staring Conner, Bart and Tim
written by Bendis

Comic or cartoon? I enjoyed the first two cartoon seasons, but I don't stream from Netflix and won't be subscribing to the DCU streaming service.

Comic

Main trio are looking a little younger than last I saw them but, it's definitely a new comic series. First arc will apparently involve Amethyst and Gem world, with Amethyst joining the team


I always found impulse incredibly annoying. Turned me off to the comic.


I'm with Freehold on Impulse as irritating, and the illustration Grey linked to does not give me hope for that character. In general the unexplained de-aging of characters is jarring, as has evidently been done with Tim and Conner.

And Amethyst is not a selling point for me. I always felt like DC had shoehorned a toy line into their comic universe (much as Marvel actually did with Rom, Space Knight and the Micronauts) and I couldn't take it seriously, so as much as humanly possible, I ignored it. (LA-LA-LA, no Gemworld here.)

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Freehold DM wrote:
I always found impulse incredibly annoying. Turned me off to the comic.

I found him annoying at first, then a little more fun in his solo series. However, I really liked him when they made him a bit older and gave him the Flash identity.

I wish they'd have been able to maintain him as the Flash, instead of bringing back Wally, then Barry. I think they just replaced Wally with Bart a bit too soon back then.


All I know is Bendis is writing these...and I'm not convinced he can write much well.

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