paizo.com Recent Posts in Will I be allowed to use a digital character sheet in organized play?paizo.com Recent Posts in Will I be allowed to use a digital character sheet in organized play?2016-02-11T15:27:46Z2016-02-11T15:27:46ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Will I be allowed to use a digital character sheet in organized play?Chris Lambertzhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2t9az&page=14?Will-I-be-allowed-to-use-a-digital-character#6902016-02-11T17:16:11Z2016-02-11T17:16:11Z<p><span class=messageboard-ooc>Removed a few more derailing/argumentative posts and closing this one. We've previously locked it, had to remove heated posts, and got a new ruling from Tonya. I don't think continued debate in this particular thread is all that productive.</span></p>Removed a few more derailing/argumentative posts and closing this one. We've previously locked it, had to remove heated posts, and got a new ruling from Tonya. I don't think continued debate in this particular thread is all that productive.Chris Lambertz2016-02-11T17:16:11ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Will I be allowed to use a digital character sheet in organized play?Iammarshttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2t9az&page=14?Will-I-be-allowed-to-use-a-digital-character#6892016-02-11T17:28:19Z2016-02-11T17:01:30Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">BretI wrote:</div><blockquote>I would expect some experienced GMs to actually prefer those over other presentations because they have trained themselves in exactly where things are supposed to be.</blockquote><p>And this is exactly why all my characters are in stat-block format. I spend more time GMing than playing my characters anyway, so I need to get used to stat-block format.BretI wrote:I would expect some experienced GMs to actually prefer those over other presentations because they have trained themselves in exactly where things are supposed to be.
And this is exactly why all my characters are in stat-block format. I spend more time GMing than playing my characters anyway, so I need to get used to stat-block format.Iammars2016-02-11T17:01:30ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Will I be allowed to use a digital character sheet in organized play?BigNorseWolfhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2t9az&page=14?Will-I-be-allowed-to-use-a-digital-character#6882016-02-11T16:57:58Z2016-02-11T16:57:58Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">trollbill wrote:</div><blockquote><br />
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<p>It comes from the contradictory nature of the game. Pathfinder is a social game usually played by people with poor social skills. </blockquote><p>Or you know, different people having different views of how seriously to take this.trollbill wrote:It comes from the contradictory nature of the game. Pathfinder is a social game usually played by people with poor social skills.
Or you know, different people having different views of how seriously to take this.BigNorseWolf2016-02-11T16:57:58ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Will I be allowed to use a digital character sheet in organized play?BretIhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2t9az&page=14?Will-I-be-allowed-to-use-a-digital-character#6872016-02-11T16:44:47Z2016-02-11T16:44:47Z<p>There is a strong advantage to having a uniform layout and format for character data.</p>
<p>Pathfinder doesn't have that.</p>
<p>They have the short stat blocks that are normally used for NPCs, the sheets found in the Core Rule Book, the Player Character Folio, and any format people come up with for themselves.</p>
<p>The closest thing that Pathfinder has to uniform presentation is the stat blocks. With enough GMing people get good at reading the stat blocks. They learn exactly where things are supposed to be so that they can find what they need. I would expect some experienced GMs to actually prefer those over other presentations because they have trained themselves in exactly where things are supposed to be.</p>
<p>The stat blocks don't help you much if you need to figure out what bonuses have been applied. That is where other formats tend to be much better.</p>There is a strong advantage to having a uniform layout and format for character data.
Pathfinder doesn't have that.
They have the short stat blocks that are normally used for NPCs, the sheets found in the Core Rule Book, the Player Character Folio, and any format people come up with for themselves.
The closest thing that Pathfinder has to uniform presentation is the stat blocks. With enough GMing people get good at reading the stat blocks. They learn exactly where things are supposed to be...BretI2016-02-11T16:44:47ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Will I be allowed to use a digital character sheet in organized play?Kahel Stormbender (alias of Daniel Myhre)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2t9az&page=14?Will-I-be-allowed-to-use-a-digital-character#6862016-02-11T16:02:01Z2016-02-11T16:02:01Z<p>Kinda like how I often struggle to find where something is on my printed character sheet. Or in stat blocks for npcs. I know the info is there, but the layout confuses me.</p>Kinda like how I often struggle to find where something is on my printed character sheet. Or in stat blocks for npcs. I know the info is there, but the layout confuses me.Kahel Stormbender (alias of Daniel Myhre)2016-02-11T16:02:01ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Will I be allowed to use a digital character sheet in organized play?Talonhawkehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2t9az&page=14?Will-I-be-allowed-to-use-a-digital-character#6852016-02-11T15:51:19Z2016-02-11T15:51:19Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">trollbill wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Chris Mortika wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Some years ago, a player showed up at my table with his character on five 3-by-5 cards, in heavily-erased pencil. I let him play his (pretty complicated) PC, but there was no rhyme or reason as to what information was on what side of what card. </p>
<p>Today, I wouldn't let him play with that, because I couldn't read it. Even though it was on paper.</p>
<p>I intend to treat electronics the same way. Scrolling through a little phone screen feels similar to me to scribbled cards. Looking at a Hero-Lab layout on a tablet reader seems the same as looking at any other clean character sheet.</p>
<p>And I'll need the Chronicle sheets on paper, and up-to-date. </blockquote>I used to play with an engineer with an true engineer mind set, i.e. he can't just design and build something, he has to make it perfect. He couldn't stand the published character sheets that were out. None of them made any sense. Everything was in the wrong place and he could never find what he was looking for. So he designed his own using Excel. When he ran his home game, he insisted we all use his character sheet so he could find stuff at a glance on our character sheets. Problem was is his character sheet didn't make any sense to us. Everything was in the wrong place and we could never find what we were looking for. How his mind organized data was just alien to us. </blockquote><p>I know the feeling I like in-depth sheets personally (in 3.5 I used a 30 page character folio for almost all my characters) but I have learned that others just get overwhelmed when looking over my character so I tend to keep a digital version of a basic sheet so I can print and hand out or email as needed for people who don't want to look over a 10-12 page sheet to find my list of consumables or my feats.trollbill wrote:Chris Mortika wrote:Some years ago, a player showed up at my table with his character on five 3-by-5 cards, in heavily-erased pencil. I let him play his (pretty complicated) PC, but there was no rhyme or reason as to what information was on what side of what card.
Today, I wouldn't let him play with that, because I couldn't read it. Even though it was on paper.
I intend to treat electronics the same way. Scrolling through a little phone screen feels similar to me to...Talonhawke2016-02-11T15:51:19ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Will I be allowed to use a digital character sheet in organized play?trollbillhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2t9az&page=14?Will-I-be-allowed-to-use-a-digital-character#6842016-02-11T15:29:15Z2016-02-11T15:29:15Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Chris Mortika wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Some years ago, a player showed up at my table with his character on five 3-by-5 cards, in heavily-erased pencil. I let him play his (pretty complicated) PC, but there was no rhyme or reason as to what information was on what side of what card. </p>
<p>Today, I wouldn't let him play with that, because I couldn't read it. Even though it was on paper.</p>
<p>I intend to treat electronics the same way. Scrolling through a little phone screen feels similar to me to scribbled cards. Looking at a Hero-Lab layout on a tablet reader seems the same as looking at any other clean character sheet.</p>
<p>And I'll need the Chronicle sheets on paper, and up-to-date. </blockquote><p>I used to play with an engineer with an true engineer mind set, i.e. he can't just design and build something, he has to make it perfect. He couldn't stand the published character sheets that were out. None of them made any sense. Everything was in the wrong place and he could never find what he was looking for. So he designed his own using Excel. When he ran his home game, he insisted we all use his character sheet so he could find stuff at a glance on our character sheets. Problem was is his character sheet didn't make any sense to us. Everything was in the wrong place and we could never find what we were looking for. How his mind organized data was just alien to us.Chris Mortika wrote:Some years ago, a player showed up at my table with his character on five 3-by-5 cards, in heavily-erased pencil. I let him play his (pretty complicated) PC, but there was no rhyme or reason as to what information was on what side of what card.
Today, I wouldn't let him play with that, because I couldn't read it. Even though it was on paper.
I intend to treat electronics the same way. Scrolling through a little phone screen feels similar to me to scribbled cards. Looking...trollbill2016-02-11T15:29:15ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Will I be allowed to use a digital character sheet in organized play?Chris Mortika (RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2t9az&page=14?Will-I-be-allowed-to-use-a-digital-character#6822016-02-11T15:31:25Z2016-02-11T15:01:33Z<p>Some years ago, a player showed up at my table with his character on five 3-by-5 cards, in heavily-erased pencil. I let him play his (pretty complicated) PC, but there was no rhyme or reason as to what information was on what side of what card. </p>
<p>Today, I wouldn't let him play with that, because I couldn't read it. Even though it was on paper.</p>
<p>I intend to treat electronics the same way. Scrolling through a little phone screen feels similar to me to scribbled cards. Looking at a Hero-Lab layout on a tablet reader seems the same as looking at any other clean character sheet.</p>
<p>And I'll need the Chronicle sheets on paper, and up-to-date.</p>Some years ago, a player showed up at my table with his character on five 3-by-5 cards, in heavily-erased pencil. I let him play his (pretty complicated) PC, but there was no rhyme or reason as to what information was on what side of what card.
Today, I wouldn't let him play with that, because I couldn't read it. Even though it was on paper.
I intend to treat electronics the same way. Scrolling through a little phone screen feels similar to me to scribbled cards. Looking at a Hero-Lab...Chris Mortika (RPG Superstar 2010 Top 16)2016-02-11T15:01:33ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Will I be allowed to use a digital character sheet in organized play?Mark Strattonhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2t9az&page=14?Will-I-be-allowed-to-use-a-digital-character#6812016-02-11T21:21:56Z2016-02-11T13:58:25Z<p>All:</p>
<p>The campaign rules are designed to provide a framework which works to promote a shared Pathfinder and gaming experience for players and GMs alike. Where there are some absolutely explicit provisions contained within those rules, GMs are left in many cases with the authority to interpret other rules (including game rules) as may be necessary to provide a better experience for all.</p>
<p>GMs and players alike, as well as all members of the Venture-Officer core, have a duty to follow and implement the rules as faithfully as possible, giving proper attention to not only the text of the rule but the intent of the rule as well (and for purposes of this, I am speaking specifically to the campaign rules, not the game rules - RAW vs. RAI for game rules is another discussion.) </p>
<p>Our new OPC has changed a prior OPC's ruling related to character sheets. That is her prerogative, and in exercising it, the ruling of the previous OPC is no longer material. In providing her new ruling, she has also provided guidance as to what happens in the situation where a player's electronic device has failed. We have her new ruling, along with its intended purpose, and knowing those two things, we all have a duty to follow them as best we can, in accordance with both the text of the rule and the intent.</p>
<p>A GM who says, "Well, I am going to require all players to bring their characters on paper" is not complying with the rule. A GM has not authority to make that requirement. Players are free to use electronic devices for their characters, and a GM who outright refuses them the ability to do so is not in compliance with this rule. A GM <b>may</b> prohibit a specific player (or players) from using such devices when they [the <b>players</b>become disruptive or use such devices in a fashion that does not comport with other rules (cheating, "don't be a jerk", etc.) A GM may also require the player to use a paper character sheet as one option in addressing the situation where a player's device fails (it dies, crashes, has a dead battery, etc.) [As a personal note, I think every player should, as a matter of good practice and exercise in being responsible, bring his or her character and supporting documents on paper just as a precaution, whether or not he or she will need to rely on them.]</p>
<p>All of us, every GM, player, Venture-Officer, Paizo staff member, etc. are responsible for the success of the organized player campaign, and as such, every one of us is required to try to work together to address situations as they arise. We don't play in an adversarial environment (it's not a courtroom) - it is not, or should not be, "GM vs. players." If that is your mentality as a GM or player, you should perhaps rethink your involvement in the organized play community.</p>
<p>Please, my fellow Pathfinders, let us not put out any hard and fast absolutes, but work to comply with the rules in a way that maximizes the opportunity for all to have a better organized play experience.</p>All:
The campaign rules are designed to provide a framework which works to promote a shared Pathfinder and gaming experience for players and GMs alike. Where there are some absolutely explicit provisions contained within those rules, GMs are left in many cases with the authority to interpret other rules (including game rules) as may be necessary to provide a better experience for all.
GMs and players alike, as well as all members of the Venture-Officer core, have a duty to follow and...Mark Stratton2016-02-11T13:58:25ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Will I be allowed to use a digital character sheet in organized play?Kahel Stormbender (alias of Daniel Myhre)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2t9az&page=14?Will-I-be-allowed-to-use-a-digital-character#6802016-02-11T12:34:00Z2016-02-11T12:34:00Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">dwayne germaine wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Sebastian Hirsch wrote:</div><blockquote><br />
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If the GM can only ever audit your character on your phone screen, that doesn't make his job easier </blockquote><p>This. This is the thing that I find most frustrating about the rule reversal.
<p>I've dealt with players in the past who were using their phone as a character sheet/PDF storage device. I think it's inconsiderate to expect a GM to have to look at your character or the rules for your obscure spell/power/item on a tiny phone screen.</p>
<p>I thought we were done with that (or at least the character sheet part anyways) with Mike's ruling. I'm dissapointed. </blockquote><p>I would too. Fortunately I have a tablet with a decent sized screen. :)dwayne germaine wrote:Sebastian Hirsch wrote:
If the GM can only ever audit your character on your phone screen, that doesn't make his job easier
This. This is the thing that I find most frustrating about the rule reversal. I've dealt with players in the past who were using their phone as a character sheet/PDF storage device. I think it's inconsiderate to expect a GM to have to look at your character or the rules for your obscure spell/power/item on a tiny phone screen.
I thought we were...Kahel Stormbender (alias of Daniel Myhre)2016-02-11T12:34:00ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Will I be allowed to use a digital character sheet in organized play?dwayne germainehttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2t9az&page=14?Will-I-be-allowed-to-use-a-digital-character#6792016-02-11T08:29:00Z2016-02-11T08:29:00Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Sebastian Hirsch wrote:</div><blockquote><br />
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If the GM can only ever audit your character on your phone screen, that doesn't make his job easier </blockquote><p>This. This is the thing that I find most frustrating about the rule reversal.
<p>I've dealt with players in the past who were using their phone as a character sheet/PDF storage device. I think it's inconsiderate to expect a GM to have to look at your character or the rules for your obscure spell/power/item on a tiny phone screen.</p>
<p>I thought we were done with that (or at least the character sheet part anyways) with Mike's ruling. I'm dissapointed.</p>Sebastian Hirsch wrote:If the GM can only ever audit your character on your phone screen, that doesn't make his job easier
This. This is the thing that I find most frustrating about the rule reversal. I've dealt with players in the past who were using their phone as a character sheet/PDF storage device. I think it's inconsiderate to expect a GM to have to look at your character or the rules for your obscure spell/power/item on a tiny phone screen.
I thought we were done with that (or at...dwayne germaine2016-02-11T08:29:00ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Will I be allowed to use a digital character sheet in organized play?TwilightKnighthttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2t9az&page=14?Will-I-be-allowed-to-use-a-digital-character#6772016-02-11T06:12:51Z2016-02-11T06:12:51Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Finlanderboy wrote:</div><blockquote><p>Let me place this right here..</p>
<div class="messageboard-quotee">Bob Jonquet wrote:</div><blockquote>Explore! Report! <b>Cooperate!</b></blockquote></blockquote><p>Surely so, but it also does not absolve players (and GMs) of responsibility for their own actions (or lack thereof).Finlanderboy wrote:Let me place this right here..
Bob Jonquet wrote:Explore! Report! Cooperate!
Surely so, but it also does not absolve players (and GMs) of responsibility for their own actions (or lack thereof).TwilightKnight2016-02-11T06:12:51ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Will I be allowed to use a digital character sheet in organized play?Sebastian Hirschhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2t9az&page=14?Will-I-be-allowed-to-use-a-digital-character#6762016-02-11T06:12:43Z2016-02-11T06:12:43Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Finlanderboy wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Bob Jonquet wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Finlanderboy wrote:</div><blockquote>provide a solution you would find acceptable</blockquote>Not everyone's solution is going to be equally acceptable is the point. With a little forethought and preparation, [almost] nothing that happens at the table will require a solution in the first place. Its very similar to the gray area discussions. The reality is, if you don't want to depend on table variation going you way, don't put yourself in a position of having to deal with it when it doesn't. Just seems like good advice. </blockquote><p>Let me place this right here..
<div class="messageboard-quotee">Bob Jonquet wrote:</div><blockquote>Explore! Report! <b>Cooperate!</b></blockquote></blockquote><p>Yes, but Cooperate means everyone, the players and the GMs, and everyone involved should consider how their actions can affect the experience of others.
<p>If the GM can only ever audit your character on your phone screen, that doesn't make his job easier, so it is always preferable to find a workable solution for everyone involved.</p>Finlanderboy wrote:Bob Jonquet wrote: Finlanderboy wrote:provide a solution you would find acceptable
Not everyone's solution is going to be equally acceptable is the point. With a little forethought and preparation, [almost] nothing that happens at the table will require a solution in the first place. Its very similar to the gray area discussions. The reality is, if you don't want to depend on table variation going you way, don't put yourself in a position of having to deal with it when it...Sebastian Hirsch2016-02-11T06:12:43ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Will I be allowed to use a digital character sheet in organized play?Finlanderboyhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2t9az&page=14?Will-I-be-allowed-to-use-a-digital-character#6752016-02-11T06:03:12Z2016-02-11T06:03:12Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Bob Jonquet wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Finlanderboy wrote:</div><blockquote>provide a solution you would find acceptable</blockquote>Not everyone's solution is going to be equally acceptable is the point. With a little forethought and preparation, [almost] nothing that happens at the table will require a solution in the first place. Its very similar to the gray area discussions. The reality is, if you don't want to depend on table variation going you way, don't put yourself in a position of having to deal with it when it doesn't. Just seems like good advice. </blockquote><p>Let me place this right here..
<div class="messageboard-quotee">Bob Jonquet wrote:</div><blockquote>Explore! Report! <b>Cooperate!</b></blockquote><p>Bob Jonquet wrote:Finlanderboy wrote:provide a solution you would find acceptable
Not everyone's solution is going to be equally acceptable is the point. With a little forethought and preparation, [almost] nothing that happens at the table will require a solution in the first place. Its very similar to the gray area discussions. The reality is, if you don't want to depend on table variation going you way, don't put yourself in a position of having to deal with it when it doesn't. Just seems...Finlanderboy2016-02-11T06:03:12ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Will I be allowed to use a digital character sheet in organized play?BigNorseWolfhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2t9az&page=14?Will-I-be-allowed-to-use-a-digital-character#6742016-02-11T05:46:51Z2016-02-11T05:46:51Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Bob Jonquet wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Finlanderboy wrote:</div><blockquote>provide a solution you would find acceptable</blockquote>Not everyone's solution is going to be equally acceptable is the point. With a little forethought and preparation, [almost] nothing that happens at the table will require a solution in the first place.. </blockquote><p>Please do not tempt the universe like that. Its really only a small step below saying you're too old for this....Bob Jonquet wrote:Finlanderboy wrote:provide a solution you would find acceptable
Not everyone's solution is going to be equally acceptable is the point. With a little forethought and preparation, [almost] nothing that happens at the table will require a solution in the first place.. Please do not tempt the universe like that. Its really only a small step below saying you're too old for this....BigNorseWolf2016-02-11T05:46:51ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Will I be allowed to use a digital character sheet in organized play?TwilightKnighthttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2t9az&page=14?Will-I-be-allowed-to-use-a-digital-character#6732016-02-11T05:44:48Z2016-02-11T05:44:48Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Finlanderboy wrote:</div><blockquote>provide a solution you would find acceptable</blockquote><p>Not everyone's solution is going to be equally acceptable is the point. With a little forethought and preparation, [almost] nothing that happens at the table will require a solution in the first place. Its very similar to the gray area discussions. The reality is, if you don't want to depend on table variation going your way, don't put yourself in a position of having to deal with it when it doesn't. Just seems like good advice.Finlanderboy wrote:provide a solution you would find acceptable
Not everyone's solution is going to be equally acceptable is the point. With a little forethought and preparation, [almost] nothing that happens at the table will require a solution in the first place. Its very similar to the gray area discussions. The reality is, if you don't want to depend on table variation going your way, don't put yourself in a position of having to deal with it when it doesn't. Just seems like good advice.TwilightKnight2016-02-11T05:44:48ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Will I be allowed to use a digital character sheet in organized play?TwilightKnighthttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2t9az&page=14?Will-I-be-allowed-to-use-a-digital-character#6722016-02-11T05:40:25Z2016-02-11T05:40:25Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Steven Lau wrote:</div><blockquote>Bob it was Play, Play, Play!... •Head explodes• </blockquote><p>I wondered if the components for that summoning spell still worked :-DSteven Lau wrote:Bob it was Play, Play, Play!... *Head explodes*
I wondered if the components for that summoning spell still worked :-DTwilightKnight2016-02-11T05:40:25ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Will I be allowed to use a digital character sheet in organized play?Sebastian Hirschhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2t9az&page=14?Will-I-be-allowed-to-use-a-digital-character#6712016-02-11T05:32:30Z2016-02-11T05:32:30Z<p>I found it quite useful to bring a couple of blank character sheets to PFS events, they don't make my existing load that much worse (pavement has not cracked just yet).</p>I found it quite useful to bring a couple of blank character sheets to PFS events, they don't make my existing load that much worse (pavement has not cracked just yet).Sebastian Hirsch2016-02-11T05:32:30ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Will I be allowed to use a digital character sheet in organized play?Dragnmoonhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2t9az&page=14?Will-I-be-allowed-to-use-a-digital-character#6702016-02-11T05:23:05Z2016-02-11T05:23:05Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Bob Jonquet wrote:</div><blockquote> It is similar in that to the old Play! Play! Play! rule that some used as a justification for bad or at least disruptive behavior. </blockquote><p>Bob it was Play, Play, Play!... •Head explodes•Bob Jonquet wrote:It is similar in that to the old Play! Play! Play! rule that some used as a justification for bad or at least disruptive behavior.
Bob it was Play, Play, Play!... *Head explodes*Dragnmoon2016-02-11T05:23:05ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Will I be allowed to use a digital character sheet in organized play?Finlanderboyhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2t9az&page=14?Will-I-be-allowed-to-use-a-digital-character#6692016-02-11T12:02:24Z2016-02-11T05:12:16Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Bob Jonquet wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Finlanderboy wrote:</div><blockquote> Why are we looking for reasons to not let people play? </blockquote>Some players seem to use that as a license to do whatever they want, create conflict (intentional or otherwise), not take personal responsibility, whatever [your] personal hang-up might be. It is similar in that to the old Play! Play! Play! rule that some used as a justification for bad or at least disruptive behavior. </blockquote><p>Then be the reasonable side.
<p>Say if you find some player scribbling on a piece of paper horribly, provide a solution you would find acceptable. </p>
<p>Some player looking to play and their device dies and scribbling madly to continue play does not seem like the example you include to not include.</p>Bob Jonquet wrote:Finlanderboy wrote: Why are we looking for reasons to not let people play?
Some players seem to use that as a license to do whatever they want, create conflict (intentional or otherwise), not take personal responsibility, whatever [your] personal hang-up might be. It is similar in that to the old Play! Play! Play! rule that some used as a justification for bad or at least disruptive behavior. Then be the reasonable side. Say if you find some player scribbling on a piece of...Finlanderboy2016-02-11T05:12:16ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Will I be allowed to use a digital character sheet in organized play?TwilightKnighthttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2t9az&page=14?Will-I-be-allowed-to-use-a-digital-character#6682016-02-11T05:07:40Z2016-02-11T05:07:40Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Finlanderboy wrote:</div><blockquote> Why are we looking for reasons to not let people play? </blockquote><p>Some players seem to use that as a license to do whatever they want, create conflict (intentional or otherwise), not take personal responsibility, whatever [your] personal hang-up might be. It is similar in that to the old Play! Play! Play! rule that some used as a justification for bad or at least disruptive behavior.Finlanderboy wrote:Why are we looking for reasons to not let people play?
Some players seem to use that as a license to do whatever they want, create conflict (intentional or otherwise), not take personal responsibility, whatever [your] personal hang-up might be. It is similar in that to the old Play! Play! Play! rule that some used as a justification for bad or at least disruptive behavior.TwilightKnight2016-02-11T05:07:40ZRe: Forums: Pathfinder Society: Will I be allowed to use a digital character sheet in organized play?Finlanderboyhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2t9az&page=14?Will-I-be-allowed-to-use-a-digital-character#6672016-02-11T12:01:27Z2016-02-11T04:58:43Z<p>Why are we looking for reasons to not let people play?</p>Why are we looking for reasons to not let people play?Finlanderboy2016-02-11T04:58:43Z