Double dipping your charisma bonus

[Del_Taco_Eater]

There is a rule in pathfinder I'm recalling that untyped bonuses stack. A paladin's divine grace and a swashbuckler's charmed life both let you add your charisma modifier as an untyped bonus to saving throws. Do these (or similar cases) stack?

Thanks.

[Secret Wizard]

Untyped bonus from the same source DON'T stack. The source in both cases is charisma. This doesn't work.

[Gwen Smith]

Del_Taco_Eater wrote:

There is a rule in pathfinder I'm recalling that untyped bonuses stack. A paladin's divine grace and a swashbuckler's charmed life both let you add your charisma modifier as an untyped bonus to saving throws. Do these (or similar cases) stack?

Thanks.

They used to, but there was an FAQ that changed this.

[Arachnofiend]

Gwen Smith wrote:

Del_Taco_Eater wrote:

There is a rule in pathfinder I'm recalling that untyped bonuses stack. A paladin's divine grace and a swashbuckler's charmed life both let you add your charisma modifier as an untyped bonus to saving throws. Do these (or similar cases) stack?

Thanks.

They used to, but there was an FAQ that changed this.

The FAQ exists, amusingly, because people were finding so many ways to double-down on charisma and make it into a real god stat.

[The Mortonator]

Arachnofiend wrote:

Gwen Smith wrote:

Del_Taco_Eater wrote:

There is a rule in pathfinder I'm recalling that untyped bonuses stack. A paladin's divine grace and a swashbuckler's charmed life both let you add your charisma modifier as an untyped bonus to saving throws. Do these (or similar cases) stack?

Thanks.

They used to, but there was an FAQ that changed this.

The FAQ exists, amusingly, because people were finding so many ways to double-down on charisma and make it into a real god stat.

Ancient Charisma problem.

"This stat is useless!" Come the cries.

"Here, take feat." Say the devs.

"Here, take class feature." Say the other devs.

"Here, take combat feat." Say the other other devs.

"Mwuahahaha." Says I.