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So who is going to see this one when it comes out?


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I'd heard of this movie and said basically, "Meh, another cgi animal movie not interested." But then I saw the sloth trailer before Force Awakens and that opinion became "Ok, need to see this movie now."

So Yes I'll being seeing it probably sometime during opening week.


They did an amazing job with that trailer. I may see it, but probably not unless my nephew gets into it.


New Trailer Here.

Japanese Trailer Here.


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Considering my kitsune character is practically in it, I think I have to.


Definitely.


Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes. I was not hyped about this movie in the slightest (animal buddy cop movie), but then sloths, and then social commentary, and then everyone was adorable, and I have to see it now. Disney, you won me over again, you sly fox.


That was possibly the greatest trailer I have ever seen.


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I know, right? A million times better than Frozen's! Probably because Frozen's really good qualities were in the story and character, not the humor, and humor is a lot easier to sell in a kids' trailer.*

*With grown-up trailers, it's explosions. We are more sophisticated, after all.


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*checks how many furry points this is going to be to see*

Worth it.


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Kobold Cleaver wrote:

I know, right? A million times better than Frozen's! Probably because Frozen's really good qualities were in the story and character, not the humor, and humor is a lot easier to sell in a kids' trailer.*

*With grown-up trailers, it's explosions. We are more sophisticated, after all.

Yes, a lot easier to do with a comedy in general. I just love the commitment to telling us one really good joke, which gives us a great sense of what the whole movie is like and keeps me glued to watching it. At the theater I was crying with laughter, and not just because the scene is funny, but I was so impressed with them actually showing it.

I don't know what the trailer-editor equivalent of a mic drop is, but whoever made that trailer should do one.


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That Japanese trailer is spectacular, too. It's interesting—their trailer is a lot more focused on the dramatic side. I theory is that because they don't see animation as being "kids' stuff", they don't feel the need to follow the "comedy only" rule for Disney trailers.


No, many Japanese do look at animation as mostly for kids but they take there Disney animation seriously.


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The song you hear in the begining of the trailer


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Dragon78 wrote:
No, many Japanese do look at animation as mostly for kids but they take there Disney animation seriously.

Considering how well movies like The Wind Rises do over there, I find it hard to believe it really is that many.


Yeah, but most of studio Ghibli's movies are family friendly...by Japanese standards.

Too be honest I don't care much for the Shakira song. But that will not effect my interest in the movie.

I really wish that Judi Hops and Nick Wilde would become more then friends. It would be cool to see a inter species romance in there world and what kind of social mores they have about such things.


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Dragon78 wrote:


I really wish that Judi Hops and Nick Wilde would become more then friends. It would be cool to see a inter species romance in there world and what kind of social mores they have about such things.

A fuzzy world that still has species usually implies significant biological barriers to inter-species offspring


They can adopt;)


Does anyone else find it strange they keep calling the Japanese trailer the "international trailer"?


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Saw it. It was awesome. Second act was a little slower than the first but still really fun.

I love that it not just a talking animal movie, its integrated into the plot and you couldn't do the movie without it. The visuals are stunning and definitely worth seeing on the big screen.


Saw the trailer...can't say I'm wanting to really watch it, but I did laugh at the Hippos playing volleyball vs. the Giraffes.


I'm pretty excited. It looks utterly delightful.


I will be seeing it today after work...hopefully.


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I saw the movie today and loved it, I hope there will be at least two sequels.


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Just got back from seeing this, it's a really fun movie. The theater I was in was in non stop laughter anytime a sloth was on screen.

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Also just got back from taking my two kids. Definitely a fun movie, kids loved it, and overall enjoyable flick. I'd recommend it.


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Okay, there is so much buzz about this movie I'd swear insects were included in the movie ha ha ha ha ha pun.

I think I have to watch it now.

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Just came from the theatre. As a first impression, I thought it was a by-the-numbers comedy action movie, well done all around. And it really nailed how Doug's species is fundamentally creepy-looking.


I would like the 2nd movie to have a romance between Judy and Nick. It would be interesting to see how there world looks at inter species couples.

I would like the third one to have Judy and Nick's miracle mutant bunny/fox child/children wich defies there science/beliefs.

Also it would be nice to find out if mammals are the only animals that evolved in there world or are there intelligent birds, reptiles, etc.


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I have to say, I am in love with this movie. Best movie I have seen in many years. Many nerds and geeks will scoff at my next statement, but I found it so much better than the new Star Wars movie and Deadpool (my opinion, which I enjoyed both of those movies immensely). I have a new favorite Disney movie.

I got a good laugh at the end of the movie. One part had quite a few people jump in their seats (I may or may not have been one of them). I may have to go watch this movie again (on a day and time when hopefully there wouldn't be so many kids), something I haven't done since The Two Towers Lord of the Rings movie nearly 15 years ago (holy crap I just realized that movie came out in 2002, 14 years ago).


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Adjule, what was your favorite Disney movie before this one?


Adjule wrote:

I have to say, I am in love with this movie. Best movie I have seen in many years. Many nerds and geeks will scoff at my next statement, but I found it so much better than the new Star Wars movie and Deadpool (my opinion, which I enjoyed both of those movies immensely). I have a new favorite Disney movie.

I got a good laugh at the end of the movie. One part had quite a few people jump in their seats (I may or may not have been one of them). I may have to go watch this movie again (on a day and time when hopefully there wouldn't be so many kids), something I haven't done since The Two Towers Lord of the Rings movie nearly 15 years ago (holy crap I just realized that movie came out in 2002, 14 years ago).

scoff


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Freehold DM, I raise your "scoff", and give you "It's awesome";)


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I saw the movie today. I wouldn't say it's the best movie to come out in a long time, but it was a really great one nonetheless.

The buddy cop theme was played very by the numbers but the way it was used to convey a story about racism (and as I found prejudice in general, you can also apply it to sexism) worked really well.

And the character designs as well as writing were awesome. It's always nice to have a main character that is relatable but doesn't feel bland and gets drowned out by far more interesting side characters. Which is something I feel happens especially often in animation movies.


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So Probably good news for future Zootopia films. Apparently Opening weekend box office was 73.7 million which surpassed the opening for Frozen (67 million) making it the highest opening weekend for a non-Pixar Disney animated film.


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Great opening box office but only time will tell how well it will do in the long run.

Now that Big Hero Six is getting a TV show, I wonder if any of the other recent Disney animated movies will.


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Dragon78 wrote:
Adjule, what was your favorite Disney movie before this one?

Favorite Disney movie before this was Robin Hood, though I love so many Disney movies (and non-Disney animated movies. Just animated movies in general).

Glad to see Zootopia has surpassed Frozen's opening weekend (much deserved imo). I did like the Frozen reference in the movie. Saw it a second time, and still enjoyed it as much as the first time I watched it.


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There will be spoilers in my post. Once again, a heads up, there are SPOILERS in the following post.

This is going to be controversial, and there are many who will dislike this post.

Hopefully, it will not be deleted as some may even report it (discrimination and prejudice work that way at times).

Some background information...

Currently I am in a place where there are two different societies living side by side. There is about 1/3 of the population (actually, it could be as high as 50% as there are a LOT of what some would call illegal immigrants that are not counted) are minorities. The other are white.

I'm an oddity, though I am a minority, I am not the majority minority here, and in fact may be one of two or three of my particular background.

However, it is as if the two worlds NEVER meet. If you came to town, you'd think it was basically a white town. You wouldn't guess how large a percentage of the population is non-white...unless you just happened to go to the schools (which ARE integrated currently...though they have proposals of building other schools and the way they might cut the lines seem like it may create schools that are heavily one race or the other).

I go to certain stores and spots where minorities frequent, and am heavily engaged thus far in the other arena where integration seems to occur in a heavier fashion in sports (I do soccer as it's known in the US).

Now, when we go to the movies there's an interesting dynamic. For children's movies, the minority seems to end up going to a $2 cinema most of the time (and if it's a popular movie, you need to show up 30 minutes early if you want a decent seat or to sit together). The majority goes to the Expensive theater, where new releases are shown.

Tonight, I went to the Expensive theater. Now, I'm not sure if it's just dynamics or what, but minorities either sit in the nosebleed section, or right up front. It could be we just sit together because we know each other. Everyone else gets the middle (in stadium seating).

I felt uncomfortable in some parts of this movie. I looked over and though the kids seemed to be watching, there were some uncomfortable looks on the fathers of some of those around me.

This is interesting, as you would think a movie that is fun, but discusses a topic like discrimination would be more enjoyed by those who would be discriminated against in my community more than the whites of the community.

I felt this was a white person's take on discrimination, rather than something written by someone who has actually experienced racial profiling and discrimination.

The movie ended, and those around me left rather quickly and quietly. Now, my section was very small, so this is NOT a good sampling. As I said, those who are not white do not go to this theater in great numbers. There are enough to fill the back two rows, and part of the front row.

All the whites were talking about how they loved the movie, it was one of their favorites, and it was so excellent.

The very same whites that sat in the middle while we sat in the back and the front.

The very same that probably do not even realize that a great number of the population actually ARE minorities in this town.

And was struck with the irony. I don't know how it will be received when it hits the $2 cinema. It could be a HUGE success. It could become very well loved.

But my impression, as I said, was that this movie was a white man's movie...written mostly by whites, produced mostly by whites, acted mostly by whites (with the token minority tossed into the top cast...who ironically was probably the police chief who was seen as prejudiced and discriminatory at the beginning of the movie).

So I looked up the writers, producers, and actors.

Which brings me to the irony of the movie...it's a movie written by whites with the token minorities tossed in, the two main actors appear to be white [one might argue the female lead is jewish...but she's jewish that is also white], as are most of the head cast (and the one that doesn't appear to be so is cast in a certain role)...so who is this movie really for.

Whites or everyone?

I'm not certain what I think of it yet. I'm pretty certain WHITE LIBERAL DEMOCRATS are going to applaud and love this movie.

This is exactly their type of thing

It may even be that WHITE CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS will love the movie and say this shows their concern for equality (though some will attack it for reasons I am not, that of their so called foolish SJW idea or something).

But I'm not sure if anyone is going to know what people who are NOT white are going to think about it. Perhaps they'll eat up the token minorities that are in it and love it...or perhaps they'll say...something seems just a wee bit off on this portrayal...what am I missing here?

Why is it that a movie with prejudice and discrimination so central at it's core does not have a more diverse group of producers, directors, and writers as well as the head cast behind it?

Is this the type of thing that Will Smith and others are trying to point out, that Hollywood really is a rather racist place?

What Denzel was about when he said it's not just the nominations, but that black actors (and in turn minority actors) are simply NOT given the right roles or the opportunities to fulfill those roles?

Not that anyone else will point this out about Zootopia, but this is the things that the movie made me think about...and why I'm wondering who this movie really was made for...because as I walked out of the theater and those whom the town would consider minorities had already whisked out of there, the White families were all saying how much they loved this movie...

Where as there were some parts I felt distinctly uncomfortable about.

Then again, maybe it's just me. Afterall, Wolves were depicted rather howlingly bad in some ways.


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There will be spoilers in my post. Once again, a heads up, there are SPOILERS in the following post.

This is going to be controversial, and there are many who will dislike this post.

Hopefully, it will not be deleted as some may even report it (discrimination and prejudice work that way at times).

Some background information...

Currently I am in a place where there are two different societies living side by side. There is about 1/3 of the population (actually, it could be as high as 50% as there are a LOT of what some would call illegal immigrants that are not counted) are minorities. The other are white.

I'm an oddity, though I am a minority, I am not the majority minority here, and in fact may be one of two or three of my particular background.

However, it is as if the two worlds NEVER meet. If you came to town, you'd think it was basically a white town. You wouldn't guess how large a percentage of the population is non-white...unless you just happened to go to the schools (which ARE integrated currently...though they have proposals of building other schools and the way they might cut the lines seem like it may create schools that are heavily one race or the other).

I go to certain stores and spots where minorities frequent, and am heavily engaged thus far in the other arena where integration seems to occur in a heavier fashion in sports (I do soccer as it's known in the US).

Now, when we go to the movies there's an interesting dynamic. For children's movies, the minority seems to end up going to a $2 cinema most of the time (and if it's a popular movie, you need to show up 30 minutes early if you want a decent seat or to sit together). The majority goes to the Expensive theater, where new releases are shown.

Tonight, I went to the Expensive theater. Now, I'm not sure if it's just dynamics or what, but minorities either sit in the nosebleed section, or right up front. It could be we just sit together because we know each other. Everyone else gets the middle (in stadium...

interesting points.


Second week and it is already at the 400+ million mark world wide.


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@GreyWolfLord: Controversial, maybe. But in no way offensive or trollish, and I certainly hope it's not deleted.

Speaking only for myself as a member of the pale "majority", I think this is exactly the kind of thing people in my demographic need to hear, else we won't know any better. As long as well-intentioned people remain ignorant...uneducated... uninformed about the viewpoints of others, mistakes will continue to be made.

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Huh, finally found the other user who picked Void Dragon avatar

Anyway, I'm not sure that this move is just about racism. I mean, it seems to be about discrimination and prejudice in general, a lot of things in movie reminds me of things related to sexim.

Anyhoo, liked the movie, setting was pretty imaginitive, animations and expressions were great, and I like that it was buddy cop movie.

Also, since someone talked about it way earlier, Japanese tend to go for dramatic trailers in general when it comes to animation rather than comedy. Not sure why exactly, but I imagine they are going more for heartwarming marketing stuff rather than for laughters. Either way, its not like they in general consider animation more adult from what I understand


I liked that is was a buddy cop movie with a boy and girl instead of it being a "bromance" movie.


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CorvusMask wrote:
...Also, since someone talked about it way earlier, Japanese tend to go for dramatic trailers in general when it comes to animation rather than comedy. Not sure why exactly, but I imagine they are going more for heartwarming marketing stuff rather than for laughters. Either way, its not like they in general consider animation more adult from what I understand

Probably because many seem to forget that humor does not always translate well across unrelated languages, let alone different cultures...

Most of my Japanese friends did not find the movie nearly as funny as many westerners have. Doesn't mean that they didn't enjoy the movie - they do think it is cute!

So rather opt for a dramatic trailer than a humorous one if you're hoping to get people who are not native English-speakers &/or not western (particularly American) in outlook to watch the movie.

In general.

--C.


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Were there any parts of the movie that your Japanese friends found funny?


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Rambling interview with the directors


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What I really liked (and was absolutely shocking for any movie making an allegory for racism/sexism, much less a disney movie) was the relative amount of nuance. No one in the story isn't prejudiced, prejudice isn't just something that the mustache twirling villain does, EVERYONE has to deal with it and the best, nicest, most sympathetic point of view characters in the movie is one of the worst offenders.


I thought it was a great movie. The characters were well done, especially Flash!


I wonder when the Blu Ray/DVD release will be.

I hope the sequel(if we get one) deals with inter species couples.


There will be a sequel, or a TV series, In it's fourth week it has managed to become the second highest box office gross (Domestic and World Wide) of any Disney Animated Movie, and it should still have a couple more weeks to go before it leaves theaters.

Seeing as how Wreck it Ralph and Big Hero Six are getting a Sequel and a Series respectively and they grossed less than that in their entire run, it would only make sense to do some form of continuation.

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