[PFS] Underground Chemist and Far Strike Monk Question


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Need some rules assistance. I posted in the rules forum and it was suggested to post here since the character would be PFS.

Looking for an option of combining 2 levels of Rogue Underground Chemist archetype with something else to get multiple splash weapon attacks per round.

At 2nd level Underground Chemist gets Chemical Weapon. An underground chemist is able to retrieve an alchemical item as if drawing a weapon. She adds her INT modifier to damage dealt with splash weapons, including splash damage....

Far Strike Monk modifies flurry of blows to say that a far strike monk can make a flurry of blows as a full-attack action as long as he's attacking with thrown weapons.

Would this combination allow a multi-classed character to flurry of blows with alchemists fire for example (assuming quick draw feat). Or is the thrown weapons mentioned a specific category of weapons rather than the action you are taking with the weapon, and splash weapons would not qualify?

Thanks in advance.


It's sad you got told to go over here, because we'll just send you back. Nothing you're asking is PFS specific, you're asking if something is legal and all PFS cares about is rules legal with very few houserules, and most of those are just on what is allowed to be played.

Question is, is alchemist fire a ranged weapon? I think not.


Chess Pwn wrote:

It's sad you got told to go over here, because we'll just send you back. Nothing you're asking is PFS specific, you're asking if something is legal and all PFS cares about is rules legal with very few houserules, and most of those are just on what is allowed to be played.

Question is, is alchemist fire a ranged weapon? I think not.

Chess Pwn - thanks for your thoughts on this. I was concerned that this wasn't truly just a PFS question.

I agree that alchemist fire is not a ranged weapon; but that isn't really the question. The question is alchemist fire (and splash weapons in general) a thrown weapon.

The definition of Thrown Weapons indicates that the wielder applies his STR modifier to damage dealt by thrown weapons (except for splash weapons). This seems to indicate that splash weapons are a type of thrown weapon but not one where STR is applied...which would then make the concept work.

Just looking for a little help because the last thing I want to do is take a character concept to game just to find out it doesn't work.

Thanks.

Liberty's Edge

PRD wrote:
You can throw a flask of alchemist's fire as a splash weapon. Treat this attack as a ranged touch attack with a range increment of 10 feet.

Seems to me that a flask of alchemist fire is a ranged weapon. What am I missing?


yeah sorry, meant thrown weapon. And it kinda seems no since they aren't in the weapon table. But I don't know if there's evidence else where saying they are.

Sovereign Court

I think if you search carefully you can probably find a splash weapon that's not meant to be thrown, but it seems safe to me to say that normally splash weapons are a special subset of thrown weapons.

Note: they probably don't count as "ammunition", so to make your class combo really work you would also need the Quickdraw feat.

Scarab Sages

If you read the combat section, Splash Weapons are ranged weapons, and they are thrown. Since the Far Strike monk specifies thrown weapons, and does not mention the thrown fighter weapon group, it should work.

Scarab Sages

Flagged to be merged with original thread in the rules forum.

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