Lust Phantom Banned?


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I wasn't planning to make one or anything, but it struck me as really odd that Greed and Pride phantoms were allowed, but Lust was banned. There is nothing overpowered about the Lust phantom, and the flavor fits just as well as the other Sin Phantoms. Anyone else find this odd, or have a guess why it's not included on the list?

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I'm curious as well - that was the phantom I was most interested in using, simply because I love damage dispersal or protection effects, and the mechanics of it were especially well-designed.

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I'ze a sad Succubus now :(

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Its a weird state of society but pretending to brutally rip off someone's head is fine but pretending to do the horizontal polka in the kings chamber is not, particularly with kids.

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The lust phantom is barely even sexual... most Calistrians are ten times worse.

:/

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Except none of the Lust phantom's abilities require them to actually boink something to activate, this isn't the BoEF, they have Lustful personalities is all.

Which is no "worse" (VERY HEAVY emphasis on the "") than playing a Calistrian Pathfinder. Or having any other character follow a sexual and/or intimate Deity.

EDIT: lol ninjaed by Kali :3

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I think I've seen something like this before:

Question: Why is A banned? It's almost the same as B, which isn't banned!

Answer: You are right, B will be banned as well in the next update.

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I'm not sure what the lust emotional focus is "almost the same as", though. It's rather novel in its design of a protective companion (for 3e/Pathfinder, anyway).

...unless you're implying that they're about to ban the worship of Calistria in PFS. I doubt that's what you meant, though. ^_^

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GODDAMN DANCEHALLS COMING IN AND GENTRIFYING EVERYTHING!

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I think AT referred to the OP and meant banning Greed and Pride too ;-)

Liberty's Edge

WE WILL HAVE ORDER AND VIRTUE IN THIS GAME !!!

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The Raven Black wrote:
WE WILL HAVE ORDER AND VIRTUE IN THIS GAME !!!

INTIMACY AND COMPANIONSHIP IS A VIRTUE!

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Rysky wrote:
The Raven Black wrote:
WE WILL HAVE ORDER AND VIRTUE IN THIS GAME !!!
INTIMACY AND COMPANIONSHIP IS A VIRTUE!

WHY IS EVERYONE SHOUTING

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The Raven Black wrote:
I think AT referred to the OP and meant banning Greed and Pride too ;-)

That makes more sense. Strange that they'd change so quickly, though.

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Rysky wrote:
The Raven Black wrote:
WE WILL HAVE ORDER AND VIRTUE IN THIS GAME !!!
INTIMACY AND COMPANIONSHIP IS A VIRTUE!

Actually that makes two of them ;-)

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Kalindlara wrote:
Rysky wrote:
The Raven Black wrote:
WE WILL HAVE ORDER AND VIRTUE IN THIS GAME !!!
INTIMACY AND COMPANIONSHIP IS A VIRTUE!
WHY IS EVERYONE SHOUTING

I was angry so I was trying to hear myself over my own voice.

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Hopefully Mr. Compton sees this thread. He's been nice enough to answer others' questions; I hope he'll grant us the same favor.

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*nods*

Spiritualist of Naderi with a Lust/Love Phantom is too awesome to pass up. Especially if said Phantom is trying to help their Spiritualist move on. Or not.

"My Love died to protect to me... and then clawed their way through reality from The Boneyard to be with me again while still holding onto their own morality. Can your's compare?"

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Kalindlara wrote:

The lust phantom is barely even sexual... most Calistrians are ten times worse.

:/

I resemble that remark!

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More seriously... Maybe we'll see lust on a chronicle sheet? Would be good for a Korvosa themed Scenario...

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Rysky wrote:

*nods*

Spiritualist of Naderi with a Lust/Love Phantom is too awesome to pass up. Especially if said Phantom is trying to help their Spiritualist move on. Or not.

"My Love died to protect to me... and then clawed their way through reality from The Boneyard to be with me again while still holding onto their own morality. Can your's compare?"

Aww, I may have to borrow that idea for a character. Can I, please? :)

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Leandro Garvel wrote:
Rysky wrote:

*nods*

Spiritualist of Naderi with a Lust/Love Phantom is too awesome to pass up. Especially if said Phantom is trying to help their Spiritualist move on. Or not.

"My Love died to protect to me... and then clawed their way through reality from The Boneyard to be with me again while still holding onto their own morality. Can your's compare?"

Aww, I may have to borrow that idea for a character. Can I, please? :)

Go right ahead :3

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I could *maybe* see it for power reasons; with Alluring Prescence an incorporeal lust phantom is fairly reliably original Crane Wing when it comes to blocking monster's natural attacks.

That said, there's many ways in which it is weaker than that, and flavor-wise I too am disappointed by its illegality.


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It's probably not the mechanics - it's probably the sexual theme. Adults with lust phantoms around young kids also playing (or running) the game is going to creep a lot of people out.

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Bill Dunn wrote:
It's probably not the mechanics - it's probably the sexual theme. Adults with lust phantoms around young kids also playing (or running) the game is going to creep a lot of people out.

I am guessing this is basically the answer.

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While I hope that's not the reason this EF was barred, seeing as how you can play devout worshippers of Calistria, Arshea, and Lymnieris, it's really mind numbingly simple to read a situation and go "yeaaaahhh, I might not want to play this specific character right now."

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Bill Dunn wrote:
It's probably not the mechanics - it's probably the sexual theme. Adults with lust phantoms around young kids also playing (or running) the game is going to creep a lot of people out.

But the mystery cultist of Arshea or Lymneris performing their obediences won't? The succubus eidolons are all right? The scenarios that send the PCs to brothels (and encourage them to partake) are acceptable?

I can't imagine that's their reasoning, simply because of everything else they've let through thus far. This incredibly tame ghost seems like an odd place to draw the line.

(Sorry if my tone seems harsh - not intended.)

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Revenge ninja!

Forgot about all the fun you can have with Eidolons though.


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Yeah, I don't think you'll get a lot of people banging their phantoms in front of kids. "Turn around Billy, this is gonna get weird"

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Things that are legal

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captain yesterday wrote:
Yeah, I don't think you'll get a lot of people banging their phantoms in front of kids. "Turn around Billy, this is gonna get weird"

Um, uh, we were making grapple checks!

>.>
<.<

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Kalindlara wrote:
Things that are legal

*reads last one*

... DAFUQ?!?!

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Looks like someone is getting up to some. . . Rysky business with this thread.

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... Ya'know, I had about given up hope someone would finally do that.

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Rysky wrote:
... Ya'know, I had about given up hope someone would finally do that.

I assumed it had happened so often as to become cliche, and I'd just missed it all.


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Rysky wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
Yeah, I don't think you'll get a lot of people banging their phantoms in front of kids. "Turn around Billy, this is gonna get weird"

Um, uh, we were making grapple checks!

>.>
<.<

If you have a Lust phantom, and get another significant other, does that mean the phantom watches...


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Does that make it the phantom menace when it starts haunting them?

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captain yesterday wrote:
Rysky wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
Yeah, I don't think you'll get a lot of people banging their phantoms in front of kids. "Turn around Billy, this is gonna get weird"

Um, uh, we were making grapple checks!

>.>
<.<

If you have a Lust phantom, and get another significant other, does that mean the phantom watches...

With the Tether and Link they don't even need to watch.

Basically if your a Spiritualist and you sleep with someone your effectively always having a threesome at the minimum.

And that's not even getting into using Bonded Senses at just the right moment.


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Rysky wrote:
... Ya'know, I had about given up hope someone would finally do that.

My dyslexic brain put an L in your name all these years, Rylsky is how my brain processed it.

It makes more sense now (and I get a lot of written names wrong, stupid dyslexia!)

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havoc xiii wrote:
Does that make it the phantom menace when it starts haunting them?

I'd be perfectly fine with a Lust Phantom haunting me.

Silver Crusade

captain yesterday wrote:
Rysky wrote:
... Ya'know, I had about given up hope someone would finally do that.

My dyslexic brain put an L in your name all these years, Rylsky is how my brain processed it.

It makes more sense now (and I get a lot of written names wrong, stupid dyslexia!)

... lol no biggie.

I'm horrible with long names (for the longest time I read Nylarthotep as Nylatharp) so anytime I see one I make sure to read it extra carefully.

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I feel like this thread is hopelessly derailed.

Although... I'm not sure it was ever properly railed.

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The Raven Black wrote:
WE WILL HAVE ORDER AND VIRTUE IN THIS GAME !!!
Kalindlara wrote:

I feel like this thread is hopelessly derailed.

Although... I'm not sure it was ever properly railed.

Do not taunt the Succubus.


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I thought for the longest time that thegreenteagamer was thegreatgreengamer, I also get ahead of myself and often accidentally skip words my brain thought it had included.

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captain yesterday wrote:
I thought for the longest time that thegreenteagamer was thegreatgreengamer, I also get ahead of myself and often accidentally skip words my brain thought it had included.

Yeah I did at first too, my brain's main thing is condensing the longer names.


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Kalindlara wrote:

I feel like this thread is hopelessly derailed.

Although... I'm not sure it was ever properly railed.

I hardly think I'm the sort of person that would derail a thread.

This must be the first time it's ever happened.

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captain yesterday wrote:
Rysky wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
Yeah, I don't think you'll get a lot of people banging their phantoms in front of kids. "Turn around Billy, this is gonna get weird"

Um, uh, we were making grapple checks!

>.>
<.<

If you have a Lust phantom, and get another significant other, does that mean the phantom watches...

This was actually the dealbreaker that made my skald turn away from seducing a certain Absalomite Spiritualist. He's still a bit salty over that thought.

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captain yesterday wrote:
Rysky wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
Yeah, I don't think you'll get a lot of people banging their phantoms in front of kids. "Turn around Billy, this is gonna get weird"

Um, uh, we were making grapple checks!

>.>
<.<

If you have a Lust phantom, and get another significant other, does that mean the phantom watches...

Sometimes in a chair, sometimes from the closet but always wearing a superman outfit.

Silver Crusade

Muser wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
Rysky wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
Yeah, I don't think you'll get a lot of people banging their phantoms in front of kids. "Turn around Billy, this is gonna get weird"

Um, uh, we were making grapple checks!

>.>
<.<

If you have a Lust phantom, and get another significant other, does that mean the phantom watches...
This was actually the dealbreaker that made my skald turn away from seducing a certain Absalomite Spiritualist. He's still a bit salty over that thought.

Your Skald or the Spiritualist or the Phantom?

Silver Crusade

Lorewalker wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
Rysky wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
Yeah, I don't think you'll get a lot of people banging their phantoms in front of kids. "Turn around Billy, this is gonna get weird"

Um, uh, we were making grapple checks!

>.>
<.<

If you have a Lust phantom, and get another significant other, does that mean the phantom watches...
Sometimes in a chair, sometimes from the closet but always wearing a superman outfit.

...?

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