kineticist defensive question


Pathfinder First Edition General Discussion


if i go cold and water does that mean i get both the armor and shield shroud of water?

Dark Archive

Nope. Still the same defensive talent, still have to choose armor or shield. You get a lot of perks for staying in your element but doubling your defensive ability is not one of them.

As an alternative, you could always begin as water for the shield, then expand into the wood element and take expanded defense. Now you have a shield bonus to armor class AND a natural armor bonus.


should i go water and cold?


i can't use anything that is not in the occult book

Scarab Sages

Occult Origins is an occult book by Paizo.

However, if you go expanded element water, you get a decent composite blast, the ability to go pure energy if you need help hitting, and an extra utility talent.

If you go water/earth you can take expanded defense for DR on top of your AC boost, or if you go water/air you can fly.

There are pros and cons to both options, so it really comes down to personal preference.

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