Athaleon |
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For a start, the planar traits would probably be:
- Subjective Directional Gravity (defaults to "Fall towards Google" if the traveler does not pick something else)
- Flowing Time (a minute spent on the Internet is equivalent to ten, twenty, or more on the Material, depending on the individual)
- Shape and Size: Effectively infinite (as it is enormous and it expands at an incredible rate)
- Magically Morphic: Some lesser portions of the plane can be altered by anyone with a Knowledge: Planes check, while others require actual spells. Billions of individuals have carved out greater and lesser kingdoms for themselves in the Internet, and altering their slices of the plane requires very powerful magic.
- Alignment: Strong Chaotic Neutral
- Air Dominant
- Wild Magic
Rynjin |
Will everyone be playing a Summoner here? Because of not, they REALLY should be...
And now I'm sad, because I miss Digimon.
Fear not, for another series approaches.
Though if you missed it before now, you should have been watching Savers or Xros Wars. =)
Steven "Troll" O'Neal |
DominusMegadeus wrote:Let's be honest. The Internet is strongly Chaotic Evil.Considering the Internet's diversity of alignments, actually, I would put it at neutral. Pretty much anyone can survive there, though evil's unquestionably got a better foothold. Like the Plane of Shadow.
Heck, strongly neutral even.
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I'm Hiding In Your Closet |
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I'm not even sure it's true about Evil being stronger - it's just what people notice, and the consequences of people behaving out of fear of the unknown leads it to be more true than it otherwise would be.
Granted, there would be a significant Lawful Evil influence due to Chuck Norris being a god-like being on here - though that would be strongly counterbalanced by the similarly godlike status of V and all the cats. Then there's Cthulhu and the Ponies to consider....
137ben |
For a start, the planar traits would probably be:
- Subjective Directional Gravity (defaults to "Fall towards Google" if the traveler does not pick something else)
- Flowing Time (a minute spent on the Internet is equivalent to ten, twenty, or more on the Material, depending on the individual)
- Shape and Size: Effectively infinite (as it is enormous and it expands at an incredible rate)
- Magically Morphic: Some lesser portions of the plane can be altered by anyone with a Knowledge: Planes check, while others require actual spells. Billions of individuals have carved out greater and lesser kingdoms for themselves in the Internet, and altering their slices of the plane requires very powerful magic.
- Alignment: Strong Chaotic Neutral
- Air Dominant
- Wild Magic
(Emphasis mine).
That's the only one I don't get. Why is the internet Air-dominant?Kobold Catgirl |
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I'm not even sure it's true about Evil being stronger - it's just what people notice, and the consequences of people behaving out of fear of the unknown leads it to be more true than it otherwise would be.
Granted, there would be a significant Lawful Evil influence due to Chuck Norris being a god-like being on here - though that would be strongly counterbalanced by the godlike status of V and all the cats.
So an even mix between Chaotic Evil and Neutral Evil?
Whoa. I just realized that V (from the movie) is a great example of a Chaotic Evil hero. I need to remember that next time we have a thread about evil PCs. ;P
Kobold Catgirl |
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Her imprisonment and torture were staged by V to free her from her fears. ... While Evey initially hates V for what he did to her, she realises she has become a stronger person.
V tortured and traumatized an innocent woman to get her to join in a war effort she didn't want to be a part of.
Oh, and the worst part? He didn't even need to do all that to her. He didn't need her to win the war; he did it on his own (though he did have her symbolically press the detonation button). He just wanted her to be a part of it—a motivation further complicated by the fact that he's apparently in love with her, which makes you wonder if he only wanted her involved for that reason. Otherwise, why not draft one of the thousands of citizens marching in support of change? That would be just as symbolically powerful. No, he does it to her because he wants her, personally, involved.
V does evil things to get what he wants (and what he thinks is best—he thinks what he did to Evey was for her own good). He does, however, have noble things he wants—freedom from an oppressive dictatorship. He has Chaotic Good ideals, but evil isn't about what ideals you have. It's about what ideals you don't have. And his willingness to commit blatantly evil acts is what tips him over. You can liberate all the nations in the world from faux-Hitlers everywhere, but it's not gonna "even out" if you're still committing brutally evil acts against innocent people.
V is Chaotic Evil. But he's a good action hero, and could probably work in your standard adventuring party just fine.
V is...not a good person. :P
Sissyl |
Kobold Catgirl |
That said, evil acts in the name of good results is still generally considered evil. There are absolutely gray areas (such as the famous "no-win scenarios" GMs love sticking paladins into), but this isn't really one of them. He thought that torturing her would get the best results, so instead of looking for a more difficult alternative (finding someone else who wanted to be involved), he subjected an innocent person to horrific torture to "toughen them up".
Good goals? Yes. Evil alignment? Totally. Good accomplishments? Well, the book has some strong anarchist themes, as I recall, but I won't delve deep into that. ;P
Sissyl |
MikeMyler |
If I recall correctly Legandary games's hypercorps setting is going to have the VR/Matrix/internet portrayed as an alternate plane - or at least using the rules for a plane.
Damn skippy we do! The Hypernet itself is a plane of existence, and servers on the Hypernet are their own demiplanes (Darknet for demons and devils, Datacorps for the hacker crowd, Thrillville for amusement, Veranthea: Life & Death for true diehard MMO fans, and then we squeezed another one into the final copy for the book :D).
Sorry it's not your thing Steven! Hopefully it can be of at least some use to you as a jumping off point? :)
Goth Guru |
I like the Tron and Cyberchase view. Everyone is a program, game character, or visitor.
Data files might be actual files, or books.
In Cowboy Bebop, how the internet looks depends on your program.
Probably want to use a Golarion interface. Sites look like towns, castles, or dungeons. Programs look like npcs or monsters. Users who access the internet will look like what they want to be. A lot of them are ponies or furries there. Yes, bad guys will tend to be Trolls. Many atheists choose to be Lamias.
Goth Guru |
Levels of access will vary.
Mouse/keyboard/touchscreen is the normal access. There may be a lag in reaction.
Virtual immersion is more complete. They react quickly, and bring up screens in the environment. They can touch anything. They can say anything. There are filters and safeguards to protect them from experiencing their character's death.
Actual planar travel allow a character to bring in their own belongings, such as a gun. They can only access the source world through their phones and such. Angels and Fiends will also be there trying to establish a beachhead. A couatl might be a flesh and blood creature. Solids, as some call them, can be killed, infected with lycanthropy, or turned into undead. When they go back home, you can throw them in the pool and hope they survive the electric shock.