From eyes to 20

[Jessex]

Our lodge is discussing starting high level play over the winter once we get another Eyes run finished.

Talking to the VL no one had more than a generic idea of "we want to play our high level characters." I know I saw a discussion on here about a progression of modules and AP's that takes you to Race for the Rune Carved Key and level 20 but I'm not sure if there is a specific order in between and my search fu is failing me.

Can someone who knows more about the subject fill me in or direct me to what I need to know?

[Exiel]

If you're playing online or by pbp, I have a soon-to-be-level-12 character whom I would like to play Eyes of the Ten with, and thereafter keep playing.

He's currently doing the sanctioned portion of book 4 of Reign of Winter, and I'd be keen for him to do the sanctioned parts of books 5 and 6, as well as the Witchwar Legacy.

Hit me up with a PM if you think you'd be able to fit me in. =)

[Jessex]

Unfortunately we'll be doing Eyes in person and have a full table.

[GM Lamplighter]

Someone did a list, but I can't find it offhand. But, there are modules and high-tier APs to get you close to 20. Start with the top end and work down, though - there are only a few modules you can play at 18+, so start there and then fill in the 12-17 range with modules first, and AP volumes second.

I think to make it to 20, you still need that special that runs for 12+ as well, as there are no level 18 modules which you need to play at 19 to get to 20.

[TriOmegaZero]

Working backwards from 20th level, here is the progression.

20th Level Path:

20th- Race for the Runecarved Key
19.2- Shattered Star 6 or Rise of the Runelords 6
18.2- Reign of Winter 6 or Mummy's Mask 6
17.2- The Witchwar Legacy
16.2- The Moonscar
15.2- Tomb of the Iron Medusa
14.2- Academy of Secrets
13.2- Eyes of the Ten
12th- Finish Tier 7-11 Scenarios.

There are AP books that can sub in for some of the modules as well.

[Jessex]

Thanks!

[ElyasRavenwood]

Steven Schopmeyer,
Thank you for this useful list. I have a Mystic Theurge, (Cleric 3rd/Wizard 3rd/ Mystic Theruge 9) at 44 XP. After finishing EYOT in 2012, I played Race for the Rune Carved Key in 2012, then in 2013 I had a chance to play Siege of the Diamond Citadel. Last year in 2014 we had a group that played through Academy of Secrets.

Can my character get to level 20 or will he be stuck at level 19.2?

Thank you

[Baronjett]

I believe there is one other year end special that lets you play beyond 11th. If someone has all the year end specials that can be played above 11th that would be nice.

[waltero]

I thought Siege of Diamond City allowed 15+.

[Iammars]

Siege of the Diamond City maxes out at 15. The only special that was truly unlimited in its max level is Race for the Runecarved Key.

[Hmm]

Steven Schopmeyer wrote:

Working backwards from 20th level, here is the progression.

** spoiler omitted **

There are AP books that can sub in for some of the modules as well.

Thanks for compiling this. Looking at these though, I don't see any story consistency. But then again, maybe one consistent story is not needed... Maybe the journey to level 20 is much like journeys elsewhere in Organized play, a little out of order and random, and that's part of the fun.

Still, has there been any thought to creating a set of modules for high-level play with a powerful story progression? Something that you finish, and say, "Wow!" when you're done?

[TriOmegaZero]

I'd be totally behind it, but I've heard nothing. I try to purchase all high level content that gets released in order to encourage that idea.

[Taenia]

Right now the issue for PFS specifically is there is only two games that allow play at 19th, Grand Convocation and Race for the Runecarved Key.

Grand Convocation was a special event and I doubt it will be repeated.

That means that you need Race to get to 20 but only from the 19.2 to 20 mark.

Hopefully a module or AP will come out that will allow play at 19 or even 20th but until then Race is currently the only way to get to 20 in PFS legal play.

[WiseWolfOfYoitsu]

For Race for the Runecarved Key, from what I've been told is that it is impossible at 19th APL. For every tier above the top written one you double the amount of creatures. Those creatures have a Will save for half spell, and the sheer numbers are enough to kill a CON maximized Barbarian on full saves. I may have been misinformed about that though.

[BartonOliver]

Hmm wrote:

Steven Schopmeyer wrote:

Working backwards from 20th level, here is the progression.

** spoiler omitted **

There are AP books that can sub in for some of the modules as well.

Thanks for compiling this. Looking at these though, I don't see any story consistency. But then again, maybe one consistent story is not needed... Maybe the journey to level 20 is much like journeys elsewhere in Organized play, a little out of order and random, and that's part of the fun.

Still, has there been any thought to creating a set of modules for high-level play with a powerful story progression? Something that you finish, and say, "Wow!" when you're done?

There's not a lot of consistency to be had across, though by subbing in AP books you can get more.

My personal favorite path includes the last 3 parts of reign of winter, academy of secrets, witchwar legacy and runecarved key. I psuedo-Baba Yaga path.

in actual order:

12.0-13.2 - Eyes of the Ten
13.2-14.2 - Reign of Winter 4
14.2-15.2 - Academy of Secrets
15.2-16.2 - Reign 5
16.2-17.2 - Moonscar
17.2-18.2 - Reign 6
18.2-19.2 - Witchwar Legacy
19.2-20.0 - Runecarved Key

[andreww]

WiseWolfOfYoitsu wrote:

For Race for the Runecarved Key, from what I've been told is that it is impossible at 19th APL. For every tier above the top written one you double the amount of creatures. Those creatures have a Will save for half spell, and the sheer numbers are enough to kill a CON maximized Barbarian on full saves. I may have been misinformed about that though.

You are level 19. Any full caster is going to have some sort of answer to this. Spell Immunity/Greater, Spell Resistance, Emergency Force Sphere, Prismatic Sphere just to name a few. Assuming it is a mass of lowish CR outsiders like Glabrezu or something then a single Holy Word is liable to remove the lot of them.

[Belafon]

WiseWolfOfYoitsu wrote:

For Race for the Runecarved Key, from what I've been told is that it is impossible at 19th APL. For every tier above the top written one you double the amount of creatures. Those creatures have a Will save for half spell, and the sheer numbers are enough to kill a CON maximized Barbarian on full saves. I may have been misinformed about that though.

You have been misinformed. In the combats there are set encounters up to APL 12+, then there are adjustments for "APL 15+" which are the same no matter the actual Average Player Level above 15. The DCs in the "social" encounters are tied directly to APL, but those are mainly related to the competitive aspects of the scenario.

Also I'm not sure which creatures you are referring to. I suspect you may be thinking about Siege of the Diamond City.