Is Swashbuckler and Warpriest a legal gestalt combination?


Homebrew and House Rules


Reading the instructions for creationg gestalt characters, it says that you can't combine two variants of the same class.

Does parent classes count as variants? As in the fighter part of warpriest and swashbuckler?

If this combination is legal, would the character gain bonus feat every time one of the classes gained gains bonus feat, or just gain bonus feats from the class that gets them every third level, and ignore the class that gains them every 4th level?


A hybrid's parents are basically just fluff. Also, there's no real "official" gestalt rules for PF anyway, so you are free to go wild.

Grand Lodge

You get feats from the best side, you don't get the feats from both sides.


Dhrakken: That's what I feared. Was asking since the classes don't get the bonus feat at the same level (except lvl 12).


*Glances in* Actually, I'd say you probably WOULD get your bonus feats from each class. At least, the d20srd.com page for Gestalt rules - which is what I use - notes that you get the bonus feats from both classes. (Fighter/Ranger, as an example)


The gestalt rules are a bit of a mess and there are no PF ones. A lot of interesting combinations will be left up to interpretation. I would ask your GM.

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder PF Special Edition, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

There is no such thing as a legal gestalt combination in Pathfinder, as Gestalt is not part of the Pathfinder rules set.

So the answer to your question is ... whatever your GM will allow.


They aren't variants anymore. If they were, the ruling that you couldn't multiclass with the parent class(warpriest/fighter for example) would still be in effect.

LazarX wrote:

There is no such thing as a legal gestalt combination in Pathfinder, as Gestalt is not part of the Pathfinder rules set.

So the answer to your question is ... whatever your GM will allow.

Not exactly true, since Pathfinder is compatible with 3.X.


Azten wrote:

Not exactly true, since Pathfinder is compatible with 3.X.

1. Compatible Rule Sets != Congruous Rule Sets

2. 3.5 Gestalt was not created with Pathfinder Hybrid classes in mind. Pathfinder Hybrid Classes were not created with 3.5 Gestalt in mind.

3. The only thing "legal" at your table is what your GM allows. The only thing "illegal" at your table is what your GM doesn't allow (society games notwithstanding).

Do with that what you will


Quantum Steve wrote:
Azten wrote:

Not exactly true, since Pathfinder is compatible with 3.X.

1. Compatible Rule Sets != Congruous Rule Sets

2. 3.5 Gestalt was not created with Pathfinder Hybrid classes in mind. Pathfinder Hybrid Classes were not created with 3.5 Gestalt in mind.

3. The only thing "legal" at your table is what your GM allows. The only thing "illegal" at your table is what your GM doesn't allow (society games notwithstanding).

Do with that what you will

Yeah, yeah, you just keep splitting those hairs over there.

Anyway, traditionally, if you get the same thing twice on the same level, you have to ditch one of them. Personally, I'd consider the two quite different - warpriest allows you to treat these feats in particular as if you had full BAB, so I'd say you get both, the same way a Fighter//Psionic Warrior got both of his feat sets in 3.5e.

However, a swashbuckler//Fighter would only gain feats according to the Fighter schedule, since both bonus feat abilities function the same way, albeit at different rates. This is the same logic by which a fighter//feat rogue only got one of his sets of feats.

Grand Lodge

The Dragon wrote:
Quantum Steve wrote:
Azten wrote:

Not exactly true, since Pathfinder is compatible with 3.X.

1. Compatible Rule Sets != Congruous Rule Sets

2. 3.5 Gestalt was not created with Pathfinder Hybrid classes in mind. Pathfinder Hybrid Classes were not created with 3.5 Gestalt in mind.

3. The only thing "legal" at your table is what your GM allows. The only thing "illegal" at your table is what your GM doesn't allow (society games notwithstanding).

Do with that what you will

Yeah, yeah, you just keep splitting those hairs over there.

It's not splitting hairs. It just is.

Community / Forums / Pathfinder / Pathfinder First Edition / Homebrew and House Rules / Is Swashbuckler and Warpriest a legal gestalt combination? All Messageboards

Want to post a reply? Sign in.
Recent threads in Homebrew and House Rules
Continents and Oceans.