Claxon |
I believe this is technically the case.
Though, personally I believe the change to Slashing Grace should also apply to Fencing Grace, but since Fencing Grace comes from a separate book that is not from the core lineup of books it will most likely not be errata'd.
You could also take levels in Unchained Rogue.
RaizielDragon |
Hmm. The Unchained Rogues Finesse Training works with any finesse-able weapon as well, instead of just rapiers. That's pretty cool.
I kind of had my heart set on being straight Fighter, maybe with Two Weapon Warrior. I'd be losing a lot of feat slots by going Rogue, and TWF-ing is kind of feat intensive. I was also counting on Armor Training (or Defensive Flurry) to have a nice high AC with the high max Dex in heavy mithral armor (or light/medium with the Dodge bonus from Defensive Flurry). I'd also be losing BAB and Weapon Training. The upside would be all that Sneak Attack damage.
If you are hidden from your opponent and initiate a full-attack action, do they stay flat-footed for the entirety of the attack? I.E.: Would I get Sneak Attack with all of the attacks in a full-attack action if my opponent was flat-footed when I initiated the attack?
RaizielDragon |
Aha. I checked Swashbuckler, specifically Whirling Dervish since it sounded like a dual-wielder, but stopped reading after I saw that their Dervish Finesse didn't work for fual-wielding.
So, Dervish Finesse only alters Swashbuckler Finesse, meaning you still have Swasbuckler finesse, meaning that Dervish Dance applies? Interesting.
you also get pseudo-pounce via Whirlwind Dance at 7th, correct?
Imbicatus |
Yes they can finesse a dagger. I'm saying that I believe the Dervish Dance was intended to allow Dex to damage on the Scimitar only and to be only available when using one hand.
However, because the archetype was poorly written, RAW, you absolutely can use DEX to damage while two-weapon fighting. I just believe it is an exploit.
blackbloodtroll |
Really?
That seems like a heavy investment, for something that a plain Swashbuckler can do at level 2, with a 2 skill point, one feat investment.
The thing seems to work fine.
I don't see why Unchained Rogue needs the absolute monopoly on class features that provide dex to damage with melee weapons.
Darksol the Painbringer |
Would it be a stretch to house-rule a feat that is essentially the Dex version of Double Slice, or does that seem like an acceptable feat?
I don't see why not. Quite frankly, if you have to spend a feat for full Strength, I don't see why it would be any less or any more to get the same for a different statistic.
Of course, you would have to put in a clause that says it only applies to Finessable weapons.
blackbloodtroll |
My DM uses this:
Deadly Agility [Combat]
You have learned how to use your agility to greater purpose in battle.
Prerequisites: Weapon Finesse, base attack bonus +1
Benefit: You may add your Dexterity modifier in place of your Strength modifier when wielding a light weapon or a weapon that gains the benefits of the Weapon Finesse feat (such as the Rapier) when determining additional damage inflicted upon a successful attack. This modifier to damage is not increased for two-handed weapons, but is not reduced for off-hand weapons.