Draconic celestials?


Lost Omens Campaign Setting General Discussion


Now, some might be thinking "Draconic celestials? What are you blabbering on about?".

Well, I'm talking about of a certain set of variant physical features for Aasimar that are available for NPCs according to Blood of Angels. These are: Arms: scaled forearms, Head: draconic features, Legs: metallic scaled shins, Skin: metallic scales, Wings: metallic dragon.

Which indicates that there are some Good Outsiders out there that are at the very least covered in metallic scales, dragon winged, and dragon headed.

We also know that Apsu has several metallic dragon consorts, which sets a precedence for Apsu having dragon "demigods" running around, which in turn could have children of their own, which further down the line would lead to draconic aasimar.

I also don't see Apsu's petitioners being rewarded with humanoid forms, especially his dragon ones, so there might also be a specific type of Archon specific to him that has the shape and perhaps abilities of a dragon, just as the Dapsara is an angel specific to Shelyn.

We won't know for certain who these draconic progenitors for those rare Aasimar with scales for skin or draconic horns until they're revealed to us, but I find the idea fascinating and am already planning my draconic bloodline aasimar bard.


dragon Archons?


In the Bestiary 2 there is an Entry for a draconic good outsider called a Draconal already.

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Also dragons with the celestial template are totally a thing. Jez sayin'


Barong wrote:
In the Bestiary 2 there is an Entry for a draconic good outsider called a Draconal already.

Draconals are Chromatic in appearance (ironically), not metallic. They also live in Nirvana, whilst Apsu does not. So they a) can't be the ancestors of Aasimar with metallic dragon traits and b) can't be what Apsu's petitioners turn in.

Isonaroc wrote:
Also dragons with the celestial template are totally a thing. Jez sayin'

The Celestial template does not change a creature's Type, a Celestial Dragon is still a Dragon, not a Good Outsider, so it can't produce half-celestials/aasimar.

EDIT: NVM my first point, noticed that white and yellow Draconals can come in silver and gold respectively. Though Gold Draconals breathe and are immune to Acid, not Fire.


IonutRO wrote:
Barong wrote:
In the Bestiary 2 there is an Entry for a draconic good outsider called a Draconal already.
Draconals are Chromatic in appearance (ironically), not metallic. They also live in Nirvana, whilst Apsu does not. So they a) can't be the ancestors of Aasimar with metallic dragon traits and b) can't be what Apsu's petitioners turn in.

Who said draconals and other agathions only live in Nirvana? They'll follow any good god who they feels aligns with their particular brand of good.

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The Celestial template does not change a creature's Type, a Celestial Dragon is still a Dragon, not a Good Outsider, so it can't produce half-celestials/aasimar.

Sure they can. No rules against it. No firm definition of what qualifies as celestial. Hell, half celestials can just plain happen sometimes.


Agathions are also naturally neutral good, and only angels are specifically pointed out to populate all of the good planes. Agathions 99% of the time live in Nirvana.

Also draconals are still humanoid in shape and the agathion outsiders represent a natural part of the world, which is why they have the animal motif. Not that that makes sense mind you, as humans, elves, etc., are just as natural as foxes, dragons and orca's and there's no 'elfonal' either. But the reason draconal exists is because in that particular view, dragons are animals that are part of the ecosystem just like the rest.

Personally I just created outsider dragons. They already have elemental ones for the inner planes, no reason for there not to be ones on the outer planes. Still have the dragon type instead of outsider type because why would the creature built on pride take a weaker type to ascend too? Just gain the extraplanar and particular alignment subtypes. Bam.

Admittedly, I gave these outsider dragons age categories and they grow stronger as they age, to a maximum point, but don't die of old age. Every dragon that dies, does need to 're-age', through that in their afterlife.

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