what is included in a "charisma based check"


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I'm looking at the alchemical creation Clear Ear and it says:

"For 6 hours, the user gains a +2 alchemical bonus on Perception and Knowledge checks and a –2 penalty on all Charisma-based checks."

I have the student of philosophy trait which says:

"You can use your Intelligence modifier in place of your Charisma modifier on Diplomacy checks to persuade others and on Bluff checks to convince others that a lie is true."

are these two things intelligence based checks or charisma based checks? I'm trying to get around taking a -2 penalty to diplomacy.


Del_Taco_Eater wrote:

I'm looking at the alchemical creation Clear Ear and it says:

"For 6 hours, the user gains a +2 alchemical bonus on Perception and Knowledge checks and a –2 penalty on all Charisma-based checks."

I have the student of philosophy trait which says:

"You can use your Intelligence modifier in place of your Charisma modifier on Diplomacy checks to persuade others and on Bluff checks to convince others that a lie is true."

are these two things intelligence based checks or charisma based checks? I'm trying to get around taking a -2 penalty to diplomacy.

A 'Charisma-based check" is any skill or ability check that normally adds Charisma as a modifier to the roll.

As far as I am concerned, the ability to use your intelligence modifier in place of charisma does not alter the nature of what type of check it is.


Your answer is in the FAQ.


Serisan wrote:
Your answer is in the FAQ.

Well than, I stand corrected. Seems odd to me, but I accept the FAQ.


thanks! that was quick and easy.


Robb Smith wrote:
Serisan wrote:
Your answer is in the FAQ.

Well than, I stand corrected. Seems odd to me, but I accept the FAQ.

It makes very solid sense to me. It's illogical any other way.

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