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I brought this up in another thread, but it's better to ask here.
Let's say I finally get that +1 glammered agile breastplate. I have it glammered into a fine gown for the fancy ball, and then the fancy ball gets attacked. Would the resulting bloodstains actually be on the glammered dress, would they disappear when you turn it back to armour (or some other outfit), or would it only show when back in its native form?
(You can replace bloodstains with other effects that you think would be important, and assume that for reasons no-one feels like casting prestidigitation on me to clean off. Maybe I just keep saving against it despite how much the party wants me to clean up now.)
I would personally say that if you got splattered with something, you remain splattered even if you change the gear. If you chose to change it to something without the splatter the splatter would remain, but you couldn't see it.
(So if you had armor X and changed it to Dress Y and got a blood splatter on it, Armor X had a stain. But within the limits of the ability you could make the stain disappear cosmetically, but the armor is still stained.. you just can't see it. Just like if the armor is painted with an insignia you can't see it while glamored but its still there).
Or to put it another way-
Splattering your glamored armor changes the underlying armor but doesn't prevent you from Glamoring it away.. at least until you releast the glamor entirely and clean your gear.
Thats my .02.
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I brought this up in another thread, but it's better to ask here.
Let's say I finally get that +1 glammered agile breastplate. I have it glammered into a fine gown for the fancy ball, and then the fancy ball gets attacked. Would the resulting bloodstains actually be on the glammered dress, would they disappear when you turn it back to armour (or some other outfit), or would it only show when back in its native form?
(You can replace bloodstains with other effects that you think would be important, and assume that for reasons no-one feels like casting prestidigitation on me to clean off. Maybe I just keep saving against it despite how much the party wants me to clean up now.)
Upon command, a suit of glamered armor changes shape and appearance to assume the form of a normal set of clothing. The armor retains all its properties (including weight) when it is so disguised. Only a true seeing spell or similar magic reveals the true nature of the armor when it is disguised.
It seems very likely that:
1) You turn the dress into a Ballgown on Command
2) You get into a fight and it gets bloody - this stays on the ballgown.
3) You use another Command, effectively replacing the first Glammer and hiding the blood
4) If you ever take the Glammer off and make it look like Armor again, the bloodstains reappear.
The fact that Glammered Armor changes shape and appearance but never substance makes it so that anything that actually HAPPENS to the armor, etc., remains, including damage done to it, rusting, getting dirty, etc.
Glammer just kinda goes on-top and can be reset, but the underlying reality doesn't change.
Yeah, the real armor has bloodstains on it...at least until someone with Prestidigitation cleans it...but you should be able to change the appearance of the armor.
You should also be able to make your clean armor appear to be a bloodstained set of butcher's clothing if that is more to your tastes.
It is a very expensive sleeves of many garments that makes armor appear as clothing.
Issues like these are why my character has a custom made ballgown with a mithril corset (treated as chain shirt) in it.
Lower AC, but less constrictive. :D
Let's say I finally get that +1 glammered agile breastplate.
Agile?
/cevah
It's a (+1, Glamered) (Agile Breastplate). Not a (+1, Glamered, Agile) (Breastplate).Let's say I finally get that +1 glammered agile breastplate.Agile?
/cevah
They really should have just named it a "Cuirass" or something similar so that people didn't get confused by this.
'Course, since the dev teams for the Player's Companion line and the Roleplaying Game line are two different groups, it's not surprising there's a miscommunication.
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It's a (+1, Glamered) (Agile Breastplate). Not a (+1, Glamered, Agile) (Breastplate).Let's say I finally get that +1 glammered agile breastplate.Agile?
/cevah
They really should have just named it a "Cuirass" or something similar so that people didn't get confused by this.
'Course, since the dev teams for the Player's Companion line and the Roleplaying Game line are two different groups, it's not surprising there's a miscommunication.
I want a +5 Dueling, Dueling rapier.
You can have a +1 Glamered Glamered Spiked Breastplate.
'Well, I never! I thought I was the only one coming here in a fine Egorian evening gown/Five Kings Mountains handaxe ensemble!'