Occultist's Outside Contact - Thematically broken?


Pathfinder First Edition General Discussion


I've been reading up on the Occult Adventures class, and something has been bugging me about the Occultist, which otherwise is shaping up to be my favorite new class. At 8th level, they gain the ability to repeated call a weak outsider, similar to lesser planar binding, in conjunction with the Magic Circles class power to cast Magic Circle Against X spells. However, Magic Circles comes with the restriction that you can't create magic circles against your own alignment, which means that you can't bind an outsider of your own alignment.

Is it really intended that a LE Occultist is unable to bind devils without spending one of his very precious spells known on Magic Circle Against Evil? The Outside Contact even mentions that the outsider resents you, even if you share an alignment component, which makes me think this can't have been the intention.


I think they intended you to be able to use the new Thamauturgy Circle spell effect not just alignment circles.


Not sure if it's intended, but thematically I tend to see LE characters as more likely to bind Angels (and Archons, etc), and LG characters are more likely to bind Devils. So to me it fits.


TN wins again :P


I think it comes from the fact that if you want the creature your calling to like you, paizo want you to use Planar Ally rather than Planar Binding. Which is disappointing from my perspective.


Milo v3 wrote:
I think it comes from the fact that if you want the creature your calling to like you, paizo want you to use Planar Ally rather than Planar Binding. Which is disappointing from my perspective.

Why?

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