Stone Discus (Spell) vs. Hardness

[Kryptik]

Greetings. Short enough question:

The Spell Stone Discus, which can be found here , at 15th level "counts as Adamantine."

Under Overcoming Damage Reduction, there is a note under +4 weapons "* Note that this does not give the ability to ignore hardness, like an actual adamantine weapon does."

Is one correct to surmise that a 15th level Stone Discus, therefore, does not ignore hardness? And in fact that nothing other than actual physical adamantine can do so?

Thanks.

[Pizza Lord]

I believe the wording should be read as 'counts as... for overcoming Damage Reduction.' Seems to be just lazy work.

I very highly doubt that the stone discus is intended to physically stop being stone and become either actual silver, cold iron, or adamantine or even all of them at the same time. That also means that things like a rusting field or something still won't affect it, nor will a magnetic field or somesuch.

It's still stone, it would still have stone's hardness and hit points (if it mattered) it would just bypass the DRs listed at those caster levels. You are correct that it wouldn't bypass the hardness of a door or a wall like an actual adamantine object.

[jbadams]

Based on that wording, I would allow it to ignore hardness like an adamantine weapon; the spell gives you an item that counts as Adamantine, not an item that counts as a +4 weapon.

As you noted, when they talk about +4 weapons (which your Stone Discuss is not) counting as adamantine they specifically note than hardness isn't ignored -- they do not call out this exception in the spell or note any additional limitations, which to me says you should treat it as you would a real adamantine weapon.