Pixie, the Leng Queen |
So this is a fun little diacussion on our lords and saviors, goblins!
First off, do you like goblins?
Do you uave any particulair goblin characters that you like?
And most i,portantly, is it just me or are goblins STUPIDLY SCARY if you give them a iota of intelligence?
WHY? At level 1 you can have a 13 stealth bonus before feats and with minimal work. Just give it a 16 dex before racial mods...
If it has a decent intelligence score it could potentially be intelligent enough to fight intelligently... and 3 of these goblins could.probably wreck a level 2-3 party with that stealth score.... 3 level 1 goblin slayers... ouch...
So yeah, goblins, gotta love them
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P.S. Goblins>Kobolds
Fatfrankie309 |
One of my favorite characters is a goblin spell slinger. He used a musket to cast his spells and rode around on a pig. I even found a round black hat for him with a magical tin star on it. At one point he was standing on top of a wagon surrounded by giant rats. So, being a smart goblin he set fire to every thing around him and proceeded to jump on piggys back. He missed and fell flat on his face. My Gm stated at that moment on how that was a Very Goblin thing to do.
Azten |
Goblins are probably one of the very best things Paizo has ever done. My goblin, known as Gip, is quite infamous in my gaming groups.
If the next adventure we are going to be playing wasn't Carrion Crown*, I'd be playing him once again.
*I'm also being nice to my friend. He's never GM'd before and he"ll already be dealing with another friend's gnomes(and those are scary...)
Devilkiller |
I'm currently playing in a "Goblin Game" which started out with "We Be Goblins" and has reached 12th level at this point. At the start of the campaign the DM used a Jell-O mold to make totally disgusting looking toads with chocolate skeletons and dried fruits for internal organs. She refused to tell people what they were made of until after we ate them though. One player almost gagged on his. It was great.
I could go on and on about our goblins and how much fun it has been to play them, but instead I'll just post my goblin's goblin song:
Sharky bite you on your knee
Sharky bite you where you pee
Sharky hit you on your head
Sharky beat you til you’re dead!
He has plenty of other songs, a 6 Charisma, and no ranks at all in Perform (Sing)
Gobo Horde |
Ya I love goblins, and I have a horde of them (if my name is any indication...)
A couple of notables
1: I am currently trying to create a goblin wizard with a miniture flying goblin familiar buzzing around his head. the familiar has the figment/sage archetypes, So my goblin wizard has an imaginary goblin flying around him, but it only exists in his head, and its smarter then he is!
I hope it will be as fun as I envision it to be :) His familiar is named Greenie the Bat-Gobo ^-^
2: Kommandar Killjoy I had another one named Kommandar Killthemjaro Killjoy who was a high level Gunslinger/Synthisest for one game. His Eidolon was built up to look like a tank with lots of extra armor and size, and wielded his Boomcannon, a huge sized double hackbut with vital strike :) It made one massive boom when he fired it!
Another fun fact about him. he had the signature deed on his ricochet shot feat allowing him to shoot his massive cannonballs around corners or bounce them off of trees and whatnot :)
Out of the tank, he turned into this commando with a shotgun that would sneak around, then unload a Vital striked shotgun blast into your face when you never saw him coming ^-^
3: Moneez was a feral gnasher barbarian, and he was built up to eat just about everything he could get in his mouth :) He could Eat Anything, Feast on corpses (Corpse Canabal trait), and anything within reach, ended up in his mouth thanks to the ability to pick up stuff as a free action :)
Fluff wise, he used to be owned and his master threw him into cock fights, betting on him. He heard the word "money" so often that he thought it was his name ^-^
4: Sparky was a goblin rogue (roof runner) with the Roll with It feat and the Bouncy trait and boy was he ever bouncy! You hit him, he bounces away. He falls, he bounces. Hes somewhere high and he needs to get down, he bounces from wall to wall on his way down ^-^ It was fun because I could climb anything and just "fall" into place XD
May his twin golden daggers ever flash in the moonlight :'(
5: The Burning Intellect never got built, but he is this high lvl goblin Alchemist (mindchemist) who is utterly focused on books and knowledge. The problem is he is permanently on fire! His big challenge and desire was to not burn his books and parchment, but burn everything else >:)
6: Ive always wanted to play the "burn everything" goblin alchemist, but it never seemed to have worked out :(
7: Lastly is Ziggs. Ziggs was the very first character I ever came up with on these forums, he was a goblin gunslinger who absolutely loved noise and carried with him all sorts of noisemakers. He was a gunslinger and had a Thundering handgun he called his Boomgun", and when he fired it, there was such a loud bang, and he just loved it :'(
Ahh memories :) You are ever so sweet :')
Dasrak |
First off, do you like goblins?
I love underdogs in general, and Goblins are fantasy's flagship underdog. Easily one of my favorite races.
And most importantly, is it just me or are goblins STUPIDLY SCARY if you give them a iota of intelligence?
Yup, that stat placement makes them scary good at archery, and when you tally up just how many bonuses to stealth they have going its nuts. Definitely a top-pick race if you want to go all "Tucker's Kobolds" on your party.
If you really want to go overkill, add in one of the dex-to-damage options that have been sneaking into Pathfinder as of late. Given how resistant Paizo has been to introducing them, you'd think something is smuggling these options into sourcebooks. Something small, stealthy, and voraciously cunning...
P.S. Goblins>Kobolds
Oh, c'mon now, the downtrodden underdog races need to stick together.
Ciaran Barnes |
I played a goblin archer in Return to the Temple of Elemental Evil. There were two places in the adventure where we ran into a troglodyte with class levels. They were supposed to be challenging, but on both occasions my goblin won initiative and one-shotted it. No special abilities to do so, just got a lucky crit. He was fairly potent with his singing bow, but there were a few times he had to resort to his small rapier. He might as well have been a town guard with that thing. 1d4-1 damage. Woo!
When our arcane trickster was possessed by a cursed, evil artifact and unknowingly began living a second life murdering street-walkers while he was supposed to be asleep, things finally came to a head and he was caught. Luckily, the cursed artifact was found to be the cause, but because of the he and another party members being implicated and other party members being indisposed or unwilling, it fell to my foul-manners little goblin to plead their case before the magistrate. Sometimes the best things happen when everything starts going wrong.
Later in the game he got himself killed. I forget how. Anyhow, as sometimes happens there was no cleric available - just a druid. The dice said I was reborn into the body of a dwarf. If we knew what ROFLMAO was at that time, thats what I would have said my gaming group was doing when I saw the result and spontanously began speaking as a goblin in the voice of a dwarf. Happily though, we got him back in the right body a few sessions later.
In 4e I played a goblin paladin for a bit. Due to circumstances, it fell to him to serve as his tribe's high priest.
Gobo Horde |
The other thing that goblins can be is insanely perceptive. Oversized ears +Big Ears trait+ a wis based class (or just 16 wis) and you can be rocking a +13 perception at lvl 1.
Goblins can be very good at lots of things.
double digits stealth at lvl 1 with small size and skilled.
double digits perception with big ears.
impossible to hurt in melee with Tree runner and roll with it.
some very nice explody alchemist discoveries (who doesnt like setting your hand on fire and punching someone with it???)
I mean, they get so much nice things \^-^/