Leonhart Steelmane |
Hi everyone, I have an idea for a goblin character, and it be helpful if he didn't get murdered every time he walks into town or by his party members until they get to know him.
the idea is that if someone sees him, they wouldn't know what race he was but would probably assume he's a halfling or a gnome, basically they instantly wouldn't think "AHHH MONSTER, KILL IT QUICK!!!"
I have the idea of him wearing a Poncho, mask and a hat,something like a ninja turtle mask and a cowboy hat. If you're wondering he is a Bolt Ace gunslinger archtype. I was thinking about making the mask magical and grant a minor +2 bonus to disguise or something.
at the moment he has +7 to disguise, what kind of DC check do you think a player would have to beat to so people aren't suspicious about his race.
and how much would you price clothing that just enabled people to not be able to figure out your race?
Dragonchess Player |
Check out the monster mask from Ultimate Equipment:
Monster Mask
Price varies; Weight 1 lb.
This articulated mask resembles a specific type of humanoid monster, such as a bugbear, goblin, orc, or hobgoblin. The mouth opens and closes when you move your jaw and its skin is actually carefully-painted cloth. Though such masks are usually intended for theater performances where an actor plays the role of a monster, adventurers have been known to use them to help blend in with monsters of the appropriate type. The mask negates the –2 Disguise DC for disguising yourself as a different race, but only at a distance of at least 20 feet or when you have concealment; closer than this distance or in clearer circumstances, the mask is obviously a false representation. It only covers your face and is normally worn with a wig or helmet to disguise or cover the rest of your head. Each mask is most suitable for a wearer of a particular size, though some size and monster combinations are less believable than others (a Small creature in an orc mask may be able to pass as an orc child, but a Medium creature in a goblin mask at best looks like a deformed hobgoblin).
Note that "humanoid monster" could mean "gnome or halfling," technically (or ratfolk). The character won't pass as a member of another race at close distances, but townsfolk probably won't lynch him on sight, either.
Leonhart Steelmane |
Check out the monster mask from Ultimate Equipment:
Monster Mask
Price varies; Weight 1 lb.
This articulated mask resembles a specific type of humanoid monster, such as a bugbear, goblin, orc, or hobgoblin. The mouth opens and closes when you move your jaw and its skin is actually carefully-painted cloth. Though such masks are usually intended for theater performances where an actor plays the role of a monster, adventurers have been known to use them to help blend in with monsters of the appropriate type. The mask negates the –2 Disguise DC for disguising yourself as a different race, but only at a distance of at least 20 feet or when you have concealment; closer than this distance or in clearer circumstances, the mask is obviously a false representation. It only covers your face and is normally worn with a wig or helmet to disguise or cover the rest of your head. Each mask is most suitable for a wearer of a particular size, though some size and monster combinations are less believable than others (a Small creature in an orc mask may be able to pass as an orc child, but a Medium creature in a goblin mask at best looks like a deformed hobgoblin).
Note that "humanoid monster" could mean "gnome or halfling," technically (or ratfolk). The character won't pass as a member of another race at close distances, but townsfolk probably won't lynch him on sight, either.
that could work, Thanks. I'll definitely be picking up one of those. so I guess from a distance of 20 he'll have a +9 bonus to disguise, which means from 20 feet away I only need to roll a 2 and up close I only need to roll a 4. the only thing I'd struggle against is people who would be actively looking at me. then the DC becomes whatever they roll.
Hmm |
Have you given your goblin the Ugly Swine trait?
Hmm
The Sword |
I find it highly unlikely that a party that you are adventuring with would not count as close interaction. Your voice, behaviour, even looking closely at you would give the game away. If they had no choice perhaps they would accept that you hid yourself with a mask but you had better have a much better reason.
Is there a reason you don't just play a halfling or gnome?
Leonhart Steelmane |
I find it highly unlikely that a party that you are adventuring with would not count as close interaction. Your voice, behaviour, even looking closely at you would give the game away. If they had no choice perhaps they would accept that you hid yourself with a mask but you had better have a much better reason.
Is there a reason you don't just play a halfling or gnome?
I know that its hard to convince my party members that I'm a different race. thats why I'm looking for ways to buff my characters disguise skill and looking for appropriate magical items that would make it probable that the party wouldn't pick up on him being a goblin. and the reason I want to play a goblin instead of a halfling or a gnome is because I not only want to play a goblin instead, I'd also want to play a character in disguise.
Twitchy Boom Boom |
Leonhart --
You know, you really should check out this post from Boomer the Mad. He's a character who approached this issue from the opposite direction, as a gnome who was raised by goblins and thought that he was one, and used a hat of disguise to become one.
Boomer is hilarious, and might give you ideas you can use!
@ Alex, not all goblins have big heads. Some sad creatures are ugly swine who could almost pass for goblins or halflings. Poor ugly sods.
Hmm
(who proudly plays Twitchy Boom Boom in We Be Goblins Too: The Musical!)
alexd1976 |
Leonhart --
You know, you really should check out this post from Boomer the Mad. He's a character who approached this issue from the opposite direction, as a gnome who was raised by goblins and thought that he was one, and used a hat of disguise to become one.
Boomer is hilarious, and might give you ideas you can use!
@ Alex, not all goblins have big heads. Some sad creatures are ugly swine who could almost pass for goblins or halflings. Poor ugly sods.
Hmm
(who proudly plays Twitchy Boom Boom in We Be Goblins Too: The Musical!)
Heh, that trait is funny
Louis Lyons |
I am running the Shattered Star AP and one of my players is playing a goblin rogue much in the same vein as your character.
Normally, I would say Cap of Disguise, but that is not a cost-effective option at lower levels. Instead, I would recommend the Cap of Human Guise from Ultimate Equipment:
This threadbare hat allows its wearer to alter her appearance at will as with a disguise self spell, except she can only appear as a plainly dressed Small human child, adult halfling, or adult gnome, such as a peasant, blacksmith, or shopkeeper. The wearer can slightly alter the cap’s appearance as part of the disguise, but otherwise must match the overall unremarkable look of the illusory form. Though invented and primarily used by Small humanoids, it can be used by any Small or Medium humanoid creature.
And best of all, it only costs 800 gp versus 1,800 gp for the Cap of Disguise.