Can We Use Wasters as Wooden Weapons?

[Protoman]

I've been hoping to get a bokken for a potential samurai character for PFS and for home games. Home games I suppose I can use rules from Jade Regent book 5 for its bokken stats (basically a masterwork club but any feats or effects applying to a katana can apply to a bokken, I think, I don't have book in front of me). But for PFS the concept has been sort of boned unless I simply go masterwork club with no class or feat support for katana

However the Melee Tactics Toolbox has rules for wasters.

Archives of Nethys wrote:

Waster

Source Melee Tactics Toolbox pg. 21
Price 1 gp; Weight varies
Category Tools
Description
A waster is a heavily weighted wooden practice weapon, used as a way to build endurance and expertise with a specific weapon. All wasters are designed to emulate a specific melee weapon (such as a kukri waster or a greatsword waster), and weigh twice as much as the weapons they emulate.

Using a waster to hone your combat techniques requires 1 hour of practice and a DC 15 combat maneuver check. If you succeed at the check, you gain a +2 circumstance bonus to your CMD against combat maneuvers targeting weapons you wield that match the waster your practiced with. This bonus lasts for 24 hours.

I'm wondering if the "All wasters are designed to emulate a specific melee weapon (such as a kukri waster or a greatsword waster), and weigh twice as much as the weapons they emulate" part of the text means that a greatsword waster can be used as a 2d6 wooden weapon? Or a katana waster can be a 1d8 wooden weapon?

Or is it just a cosmetic look and wasters aren't used as weapons at all but simply for the CMD bonus on specific weapons?

I suspect the latter, but I hope for something along the former.

[Ross Byers]

It's the latter.

[claudekennilol]

I'd let you use it as an improvised club/greatclub depending on the size.

[Protoman]

<sigh> yea. back to club usage for me.

[Imbicatus]

I prefer the Hanbo to model wooden swords.

[Qaianna]

It looks like the letter of the law there is that they're tools. I really do like the idea of having blunt practice weapons usable as more than improvised. Although I'd definitely base them off their parent weapon. It says in the improvised weapon rules to do that! Seriously:

PRD wrote:

To determine the size category and appropriate damage for an improvised weapon, compare its relative size and damage potential to the weapon list to find a reasonable match.

If it's as big as, weighs as much as, is shaped as, and even is meant to be swung as a greatsword ...

(Personally, I'd probably homerule that feats would apply but still a penalty. Your sword's twice as heavy and twice as blunt, so it's still a chore. But ones that weigh the same? Call it 1.5x cost, 1x weight, bludgeoning only, and less crit chance unless base weapon was already B.)