Improvisation and Technology


Rules Questions

Silver Crusade

If I have the human Improvisation feat, does that cover skill checks with technology?

Silver Crusade

That way I don't need the Technologist feat.


I would say no.


Technology Guide wrote:

Skills

No new skills are introduced to the Pathfinder RPG to model how characters interact with technology-rather, existing skills are expanded to allow for such interaction. Additional rules for how skills interact with technology are listed below. Without the Technologist feat, a character is treated as untrained in the skill in question when using it on technology.
Technologist wrote:
Normal: You treat all skill checks made against technology as if they were untrained skill checks. This may mean that you cannot attempt certain skill checks, even if you possess ranks in the skill in question.
Improvisation wrote:
Benefit: You gain a +2 bonus on all skill checks for skills you have no ranks in. Furthermore, you can use all skills designated "trained only" untrained.

The way it's phrased, Technology treats you as untrained, but does not also make those checks "trained only".

But Improvisation coupled with Technologist would let you make untrained checks for skills uses that require both Technologist and skill ranks (like disable device).

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