Regarding The Ultimate Combat Errata


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Andrew Christian wrote:

Fabricate is a 4th level spell and has more restrictions on it than abundant ammunition did.

So no, it wasn't balanced.

It was balanced fine, and balanced out the gunslingers by making them waste their first turn activating it.

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Chernobyl wrote:

why is it fair that a first level spell (aspect of the falcon) can give you the equivalent of a feat (improved crit) and a good bonus to perception that would otherwise cost you thousands and thousands of gold in magic items to obtain? there are many other examples, but that's probably the most extreme.

because its magic!

Because it lasts a minute per level, and costs your first action in combat to cast (unless you quicken it). It's expensive in a different way.

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I wouldn't go so far as to say it was a balanced 1st level spell, but James has hit the nail on the head as to why I rarely, if ever, used it. Once and a while I could convince a friendly cleric or sorcerer to cast it on my ammo pouch, but by the time I consistently had the spell available (oil or wand), I just didn't bother to waste the action. Sure, I could blow through 3-4 rounds of adamantine paper cartridges every six seconds.... but if it kept us alive, it was worth it.

By Abadar, why would we be supporting a spell that prevented proper mercantile exchange from happening? Would you deny the bullet-makers, miners, smelters, and the like their trade?

Just ain't civilized, I say!

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Talking about powerful options, I've got a magus who routinely UMD's a wand of aspect of the falcon. I have no idea who ok'd that spell into the system but I would totally pester them for homebrew spells in a non-PFS campaign!

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Regarding the Bolt Ace. I have a character with the old Bolt Ace who got the free blunderbuss (never uses it) and then bought a heavy crossbow. With the errata he should instead get a free crossbow and no blunderbuss. Can I get my money back on the crossbow and have the blunderbuss disappear?

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It's been a week, any decisions?

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James Anderson wrote:
It's been a week, any decisions?

Sorry, I haven't been on the messageboards as much as normal this past week.

Yep, go ahead and sell back the crossbow and toss the blunderbuss in the bin.

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David Neilson wrote:

Pity about sneaking precision. I do not think you can get it in PFS, at least easily.

That's a real kick in the teeth to slayers, which is likely why they upped the prerequisite to begin with. I was just reading Ultimate Combat last week and musing on how that feat suddenly got a lot better with the introduction of a full-BAB class with sneak attack. :P

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Well before the slayer you had to go in via Low Templar to get it as an ability within PFS play. Though yeah it does feel like it is a change due to there being an obvious way to get it at medium levels instead of at high levels.

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John Compton wrote:
James Anderson wrote:
It's been a week, any decisions?

Sorry, I haven't been on the messageboards as much as normal this past week.

Yep, go ahead and sell back the crossbow and toss the blunderbuss in the bin.

Great

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