Tattoo Potion Permanency


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Does the spell tattoo created by the Tattoo Potion persist between scenarios? The guide states that:

PFS Guide wrote:
All spells and effects end at the end of a scenario with the following exceptions

and the spell does not fall under the stated exceptions. My question is does the created tattoo qualify as the effect, thus ending after each scenario. If so it seems rather useless for society play. As a follow up question if I get a (very expensive) wand or a scroll of Spell Tattoo and used that would it be permanent? It is really cheesy and requires a very literal reading of this FAQ but it is a magic item creating an additional item that would be permanent. It most definitely violates RaI if Tattoo Potion can't normally make a permanent item, but RaW it seems to work.

Sczarni 5/5 5/55/5 ***

Tattoo Potion, for reference.

It'd be 17000gp for a wand, or 650gp for a scroll, or 560gp for the spellcasting service, plus the cost of whatever potion you wanted to cast it on.

As you quoted, all spells and effects end at the end of a scenario. Tattoo Potion is a spell (as is the potion you'd be casting it on). Therefore, its effects (or those of the potion it was cast on) would not persist beyond the scenario.

The FAQ you linked is regarding magic items that create additional items. As Tattoo Potion is not a magic item creating an additional item, it would not fall under the scope of that FAQ.

As a word of advice, be careful tossing around the acronym "RAW". PFS is not run or operated by robots, and overly literal parsings of text are more likely to give you flack than the outcome you're looking for.

The Exchange 3/5

As Nefreet said the spell Tattoo Potion itself is not a magic item creating an additional item. Even the wands and scrolls are just items which cast the spell, not create an item themselves.

I still think this spell is pretty useful but has a drawback in that your potion would be lost if not used before the end of the scenario. It's actually pretty decent for good low level potions if you cover the ink costs with blood money.

Silver Crusade 5/5

I think it's probably worth clarification, as there is a little bit of precedence with similar effects, like being able to have someone cast into a spellstoring weapon/armor and being able to have it noted on the chronicle and carry over. Not arguing for or against, just hitting FAQ.

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UndeadMitch wrote:
I think it's probably worth clarification, as there is a little bit of precedence with similar effects, like being able to have someone cast into a spellstoring weapon/armor and being able to have it noted on the chronicle and carry over. Not arguing for or against, just hitting FAQ.

It is just slightly more complicated. Spells in spell-storing items only carry over between scenarios if the person who owns the spell-storing item casts the spell into the item, or if an NPC spellcaster is paid to cast a spell into the item. Spells cast into spell-storing items by PCs who do not own the item do not persist between scenarios.

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Silver Crusade 5/5

Good to know, thanks for correcting me.

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