[PFS] Dual Wielding and Casting


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Grand Lodge

I'm planning on making a Sarnenae cleric that duel weilds scimitars. While duel weilding these weapons can I cast spells that have a somatic or focus component to them. If not is there a work around feat or maybe it can be at the discretion of my GM

Scarab Sages

If they have somatic, you need a free hand to cast them. The only work around I can think of is Still Spell Metamagic. I am happy to be wrong though, if someone else with much more system-fu knows of something else.

Silver Crusade

There is a weapon enchant that allows your weapon to count as a divine focus, create reliquary arms and armor, but sadly it isn't PFS legal.

The Birthmark faith trait from APG:
Birthmark: You were born with a strange birthmark that looks very similar to the holy symbol of the god you chose to worship later in life. This birthmark can serve you as a divine focus for casting spells, and as a physical manifestation of your faith, it increases your devotion to your god—you gain a +2 trait bonus on all saving throws against charm and compulsion effects as a result.

The item Holy Symbol (tattoo) is another way to get a holy symbol, and it even has designer explanation that you don't need a free hand.

Silver Crusade

The Sentinel Prestige class turns the deity's favored weapon into a holy symbol...but it doesn't get past the free hand requirement for casting....hence the weeping and gnashing of teeth over slashing grace.

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DesolateHarmony wrote:

There is a weapon enchant that allows your weapon to count as a divine focus, create reliquary arms and armor, but sadly it isn't PFS legal.

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The item Holy Symbol (tattoo) is another way to get a holy symbol, and it even has designer explanation that you don't need a free hand.

Even with the tattoo you still need a free hand for somatic components.


Still spell.

The holy symbol is fine. It just needs to be presented. That doesn't take a hand, think superman puffing out the S on his chest.

Scarab Sages

There's also consecrated weapon from the Channel Foci section of Adventurer's Armory. It's a mundane addition to a weapon that makes it a holy symbol. It only adds 150gp to the cost. Just make sure you have a second holy symbol in case you're ever disarmed. The specific benefit of Consecrated Weapon isn't that great, but it's a cheap way to turn a weapon into a holy symbol. I have it on my melee Oracle/Warpriest's Elven Curved Blade.

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Grand Lodge

As many have suggested your weapons counting as holy symbols is helpful, however it doesn't take care of the somatic component. (They will however act as a focus, now) For somatic components you either need a free hand or still spell. (Or a weapon like a cestus that both acts as a weapon and a free hand)

Silver Crusade

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You could also dip two levels of juggler bard.


You do know that you will taking heavy penalties for dual wielding two handed weapons, right? With a 3/4 BAB and no bonus feats, you'll have a hard time hitting anything.

Crusaders' flurry can help with that, but it would take a monk dip.


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Silver Crusade

I think she meant "two one-handed weapons."

Shadow Lodge

There's a feat for Toragites which would allow this with warhammers. I should build something with that one of these day.


The Fox wrote:
I think she meant "two one-handed weapons."

You are correct; thank you for catching that. (I should stop trying to post from my phone.)


1) Invest in one of the scimitars as your primary weapon (make magic, give enhancements, etc)
2) Get several regular scimitars (eventually multiple masterwork scimitars)
3) If you need to cast after you've done some TWFing, drop the secondary, cast, draw a new one
0) Quick Draw would probably help

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...I have a suggestion that works great for my Sorc/Fight/DD that dual-wields kukri...
Free Action to put one of the weapons in the other hand.
Standard Action cast spell.
Free Action to return weapon to original hand.

Most folks are strong enough to hold two relatively heavy items in one hand for a couple of seconds, so I see no reason why you can't hold one pommel between your pinky and ring fingers and another pommel between your thumb and index finger for the 2 seconds it takes you to wave your other arm around for before returning it to your free hand.


A warpriest can cast quickened still spells with the use of fervor.


K-kun the Insane wrote:

...I have a suggestion that works great for my Sorc/Fight/DD that dual-wields kukri...

Free Action to put one of the weapons in the other hand.
Standard Action cast spell.
Free Action to return weapon to original hand.

Most folks are strong enough to hold two relatively heavy items in one hand for a couple of seconds, so I see no reason why you can't hold one pommel between your pinky and ring fingers and another pommel between your thumb and index finger for the 2 seconds it takes you to wave your other arm around for before returning it to your free hand.

This probably isn't a good idea to try for PFS. It's something the majority of GMs would be at least leery about allowing. Doubly so in PFS, where GMs aren't supposed to give non-RAW rulings to throw a bone to a player.


Play a race with a prehensile tail.

Other than that the only thing I have to say that while it is frowned upon correcting someone's writing I think one should at least learn the correct name of one's deity. You want to impersonate someone who worships this god, after all.


Weapon cord for 1 sp. Drop weapon as free, cast as standard, recover as move.

Combine with the birthmark trait, which puts your holy symbol on your body.


Hm. I think Called weapon would help. Free action to drop, standard action to cast, swift action to call. Done!

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