Alternative Racial Traits and Adoption [PFS]

[Fist2Jaw]

I was just in the midst of character creation when I remembered the human racial trait called "Adoption", where they would lost their bonus feat to gain the weapon proficiency of their adopted parents, weapon focus, or skill focus if they don't have a proficiency. Which sounds neat and all, but losing a bonus feat for a few martial and one or two exotic weapons don't seem too impressive... But what if you were adopted by Tengu? Do you instead get sword trained? Cause that actually might be worth it.

Also if I were say, a Half-Elf, could I chose the human alternative racial trait Adopted, what with being a half-elf, half-human (Since half-elf/half-orc is not actually an option).

[SlimGauge]

Race Traits <> Racial Traits:

See threads like this one

Adopted lets you pick a Race Trait from the traits list in place of one of your other traits, but it does NOT allow you to pick up a Racial Trait (such as dwarven darkvision).

[Cyrad]

He's talking about Adoptive Parentage, a human alternate racial trait, not the Adopted race trait.

No, Tengus wouldn't work. Sword Trained is not Weapon Familiarity.

[David knott 242]

If you are referring to the Adoptive Parentage alternate racial trait for Humans, you do not get Swordtrained because it is not Weapon Familiarity. What you would get in the case of being adopted by a Tengu is the ability to speak Tengu and your choice of either (1) Skill Focus in Linguistics, Perception, or Stealth (skills that a Tengu gets a bonus to) or (2) Weapon Focus in any one of the weapons mentioned under Swordtrained (as all of these weapons are "associated" with Tengu).

If you are referring to the Adopted social trait, see SlimGauge's comment.

Since this question is for PFS, though, you may be out of luck -- I seem to recall some restrictions in that campaign in regard to adoption.
Somebody who plays PFS should be able to clarify such details.

[SlimGauge]

Ok, so he's talking about Adoptive Parentage

Adoptive Parentage wrote:

Adoptive Parentage: Humans are sometimes orphaned and adopted by other races. Choose one humanoid race without the human subtype. You start play with that race's languages and gain that race's weapon familiarity racial trait (if any). If the race does not have weapon familiarity, you gain either Skill Focus or Weapon Focus as a bonus feat that is appropriate for that race instead. This racial trait replaces the bonus feat trait.

It does what it says it does and only what it says it does.

[ZZTRaider]

SlimGauge wrote:

Race Traits <> Racial Traits:

See threads like this one

Adopted lets you pick a Race Trait from the traits list in place of one of your other traits, but it does NOT allow you to pick up a Racial Trait (such as dwarven darkvision).

I'd just like to say that I love that not only did Paizo cause all sorts of confusion with the Adopted social trait due to the distinctly different yet similarly named Race traits and Racial traits, but then they decided to do it again by introducing the Adoptive Parentage racial trait that is similar to (both in name and function) but distinctly different from Adopted.

[Fist2Jaw]

That's confusing, and darn. I was really hoping to get Tengu Sword train.... Oh well, maybe in a homebrew game. Thanks for the clarification.

[graystone]

You can always ask the DM if you can take Sword Trained. It's similar to Weapon Familiarity and I've seen DM's allow it before. If not, it still allows you to snag any swordlike or eastern weapon Weapon Focus. [from Sword Trained or Exotic Weapon Training]