Unchained Flurry of blows and nat attacks.


Rules Questions


I have an unchained monk and am thinking about dipping into blood rager for the raging ability while still being lawful. If I picked a bloodline like abyssal it would give me claw attacks. If I had the weapon focus (claw) and feral combat feat, would I be able to make my flurry's normal designated strikes (2 full bab attacks, plus one with a ki point at level 3) and then attack with my natural weapons as the whole full round action? I have seen a couple threads on this but have not seemed to get a solid answer.


No, as far as I am aware.

There is an FAQ here that states how the Feral Combat Training feat works. It doesn't allow you to make your normal flurry of blows attacks plus your natural weapon attacks in addition. Rather, it allows you to flurry with your natural weapon attacks as if they were unarmed strikes, attacking the same number of times but performing some or all of those attacks with a natural weapon.

So, unless there's something different I'm missing about the Unchained Monk's flurry of blows, Feral Combat Training wouldn't increase your number of flurry attacks.


Feral combat definitely doesn't work, but UCmonk is missing the normal monk language from stopping Natural attacks working in general. A dev (don't remember who, sorry) chimed in to say that the line that goes something like "He takes no penalty for using multiple weapons when making a flurry of blows, but he does not gain any additional attacks beyond what's already granted by the flurry for doing so." is supposed to stop natural attacks from working... although I think you could rule either way.


Well, normally what stops natural weapons from working with the Unchained Monk flurry of blows is the line
"When using this ability, the monk can make these attacks with any combination of his unarmed strikes and weapons that have the monk special weapon quality."
Natural weapons are neither unarmed strikes nor weapons that have the monk special weapon quality, so they don't work with the Unchained Monk flurry of blows

It only gets really complicated when you have an Unchained Monk/Cleric of Apsu with Crusader's Flurry (Bite).

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