Is the Primal Companion Hunter useless now?


Pathfinder First Edition General Discussion


So now they get 2 evo points at level 1, 4 at level 8 and 6 at 15. Or have I misunderstand something?

The point cost of the normal things a hunter normally would get is. is 2 points at level 1 and 8 points at level 8 and 12 points at level 15.
This effects are permanent for the animal companion and you can get them yourself for the same time the Primal companion hunter can use them on his companion.


That seriously puts a hamper on a variety of ideas (using it as a more balanced synthesist, for example), but no, it isn't completely useless.

This mostly comes from the fact that you aren't working from scratch, like with actual eidolons. You are working with animals who have body aprts which would require costly evos to replicate on an eidolon.

So you can easily add on a variety of useful evos. Have your tiger sprout wing at level 8. Have your wolf grow claws and pounce at level 1. ETC ETC.


It is weaker generally than base Hunter, but flight and pounce make it borderline useful. Although you cannot afford both in the good form until 15, so *shrug*.

It also says go big cat/dino or go home as you no longer have the free evo points to fly and add attacks. Basically a huge nerfbat to a fun archtype that will make it just another reason not to buy Paizo products.


I think I will stick to the old one in home games.


I am going to do that for almost all of the errata.

Liberty's Edge

Seems useful to me. 2 Claws, a bite, pounce, and flight on an ankylosaur, for example, is still very possible (and everything but flight by level 8).


Overall, you get enough evo points for a nice few extra abilities on an animal companion that might have already been fairly strong.

And to be honest- I was always kind of unsure whether animal focus was actually worth it. While the skill bonuses are fine (a bunch of extra perception), the things like enhancement bonuses seemed...meh. They don't stack with belts, and their main use seems to be saving money by letting you buy a worse belt (just getting a +6 con belt, and letting an animal focus give you + str).

Of course, I might simply be misunderstanding animal focus. Is there some major advantage I missed?

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder PF Special Edition, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber
lemeres wrote:

Overall, you get enough evo points for a nice few extra abilities on an animal companion that might have already been fairly strong.

And to be honest- I was always kind of unsure whether animal focus was actually worth it. While the skill bonuses are fine (a bunch of extra perception), the things like enhancement bonuses seemed...meh. They don't stack with belts, and their main use seems to be saving money by letting you buy a worse belt (just getting a +6 con belt, and letting an animal focus give you + str).

Of course, I might simply be misunderstanding animal focus. Is there some major advantage I missed?

The flexibility.... options to boost a lot of diffrent skills when needed, or take on something like Evasion. And at later levels you can have two (maybe 3) foci active at the same time.

It works very nicely with an adaptive bow.

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