Do multiple overlapping entangle spells do anything?


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Our GM just had five assassin vines hit the party with five overlapping entangle spells, forcing five saves from the each of us.

Is this how it's supposed to work? It's not like a fireball or instantaneous effect. It's an ongoing transmutation that affects the foliage. Once the foliage is large and entangly, I'm uncertain that it can be made larger and more entangly in that manner. I'd like to think that it would be no more effective than casting enlarge person on the fighter multiple times.

Anyways, so we made our five saves and went on with the battle. Then in later rounds I noted the players would make five more saves. I'm thinking they might only need to make one. You're either in the entangle area, or you're not; you're entangled, or you're not.

How is this kind of situation supposed to be run? Has it ever been addressed?

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The list is:

  • Different Bonus Types
  • Same Effect More than Once in Different Strengths
  • Same Effect with Differing Results
  • One Effect Makes Another Irrelevant
  • Multiple Mental Control Effects
  • Spells with Opposite Effects
  • Instantaneous Effects

None of those cover Entangle until they fail the same.

So if you get 5 entangles, 5 saves. If you fail 2 or more they won't stack under One Effect Makes Another Irrelevant.

This is a common tactic in a lot of adventures. Throw 6 harpies and make the party roll 6 times. Throw 4 bunyips and make then roll 4 times. Roll 12 gorgon rolls and make them make 12 save of petrify. All these examples are in modules I've played or ran (in the combat advice.)

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