Hello board people,
I've been itching to get into some more PBP lately, and my job recently informed me that a bunch of my work is cancelled for the summer so I might actually have time for another game.
I recently ran a playtest of the Unchained classes, and thought the monk was really badass. I also live in China and have for several years now. These two things have combined into a hankering for some Wu Xia style role playing.
I am considering running the Paizo adventure module The Ruby Phoenix Tournament with some house rules. Here is what I'm thinking:
Players: 4
Point Buy: 17 (no lower than 8, or higher than 18 after racials at level 1)
Level: 10
Races: Core Races, Catfolk, Kitsune, Nagaji, Ratfolk, Samsaran, Tengu, Vanara, Vishkanya, Wayang
Classes:Brawler, Cleric*, Fighter, Kineticist (must switch to full version once on d20pfsrd.com), Ninja, Samurai, Shaman, Slayer, Sorcerer, Unchained Monk, Warpriest* (*only of deities below)
Deities:Abadar · Daikitsu · Desna · Fumeiyoshi · General Susumu · Hei Feng · Irori · Kofusachi · Lady Nanbyo · Lamashtu · Lao Shu Po · Nalinivati · Pharasma · Qi Zhong · Shelyn · Shizuru · Sun Wukong · Tsukiyo · Yaezhing · Yamatsumi
House Rules:
Would anyone be interested in such a thing? Questions or comments are welcome, thanks for your consideration.
Interested, absolutely. Can do? Not really. I'm going on vacation for about ten days, leaving on Monday.
Good luck with it though dude.
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I might be interested in seeing this develop. I have a kitsune sorceress who hasn't gotten her chance to fulfill her destiny yet, and I don't get the chance to go eastern in RPing much. I can't say I'm as familiar with 'wu xia' style roleplaying, so a primer or two might be good, but I'll watch this thread nonetheless.
Well, this isn't a game yet. So dotting is fine I guess, but don't bother making a character. If there is sufficient interest then I will make an actual recruitment thread.
If you want to learn about Wu Xia there are a lot of Chinese action movies out there. Here is an article to get you going.
Potentially interested
Would love to play a whitecape vanara in this kind of setting :D. Most likely play as a brawler for some hardcore CMB & CMD bonuses.
I'll say that if 10 people show definite interest then I'll move forward with this.
I always wanted to try this when I was doing more PFS. I would be down. I love gladiator type combat stuff. So did you want us to submit characters or is this still just interest check?
Ooh, I'm interested in doing a aerokineticist or perhaps a monk/aerokineticist
How does weapon attunement play with people who don't use weapons?
I would count unarmed strike as a weapon I guess. Looks like four people showing solid interest so far. Six more and this becomes a recruitment.
Natural weapons would just function as regular weaponry, I'd think? Like how a bite attack is still a weapon, even though it isn't a manifactured one. I don't know if it'd interact with the kineticist attack ability at all though.
Any way, this game looks really interesting, I like that you're focusing on a subset of fluff.
Is there any particular reason you can only use the unchained monk? I get that it's better than regular monk, but it does cut off a lot of interesting archetypes.
Looking over the magic item progression rules, I really dislike how they've axed weapons and armor with a full bonus of above +5 altogether - that doesn't seem neccesary.
On the plus side, it does allow you to pick up all that other stuff you seldom get to use in game, because all the money get spent on stat boosters. I think I like it.
Edit: Would you allow Magus or Bard? Both seem fairly wuxia in feel to me, although especially the magus. Bladed Dash and all that.
I'd also stick the witch in there, but that's probably just me.
Looking over the magic item progression rules, I really dislike how they've axed weapons and armor with a full bonus of above +5 altogether - that doesn't seem neccesary.
No they haven't. You get your enhancement bonus from your level progression, but then you can buy up to +5 worth of other features on your weapon. You can get up to a total of +10 just the same.
And them removing the plus from unique weapons and armors makes them more flexible. I know of several cases where I wanted a particular special ability but I didn't like that it was only linked with a specific plus.
No they haven't. You get your enhancement bonus from your level progression, but then you can buy up to +5 worth of other features on your weapon. You can get up to a total of +10 just the same.
And them removing the plus from unique weapons and armors makes them more flexible. I know of several cases where I wanted a particular special ability but I didn't like that it was only linked with a specific plus.
I think they did. Take a look at this;
In this system, magic weapons, armor, and shields never have enhancement bonuses of their own; those bonuses are granted only through attunement. Any weapon, armor, or shield special abilities on attuned items count against a character's enhancement bonus from attunement. To determine an attuned magic item's enhancement bonus, subtract the cost of its special ability from the enhancement bonus granted by attunement. (This applies only to special abilities whose cost is equivalent to an enhancement bonus, not to those that cost a flat amount of gold pieces.) For example, if a character with a +3 enhancement bonus from weapon attunement wields a keen scimitar, she subtracts 1 point of her enhancement bonus (for the cost of keen), leaving her with a +2 keen scimitar. If a character doesn't have enough of an enhancement bonus to afford the special ability (such as a 4th-level character with a vorpal longsword), she can still use the weapon's power on its own, but the weapon gains no enhancement bonus.
Am I reading this wrong? I hope I might be, but I don't think I am.
Doh, I was wrong. However, this makes specific items that much better as they don't do that.
Doh, I was wrong. However, this makes specific items that much better as they don't do that.
Yeah. You're right about that. I'd better go look up which ones are good.
Edit: Hmm. I'm considering a sword saint samurai. It's a shame you have to challenge to make Iajitsu strikes, you could've made an interesting opener move if it could have been combined with hurtful. It still might make for something good though. I'll mess around with it a bit.
Edit2: How do we figure out hit points?
Need four more people to show interest. I will handle that stuff in the recruitment thread Dragon, if/when there is one.
Interested. Question, only unchained monk, or can we also stick with old style to have access to archetypes? Also, what about PrCs that are specific to one of the classes you mentioned?
I will probably allow normal monk too if this takes off.
Well, in order to bump this to the top to get more interest, and to show my commitment, here's Vaki Stormrider. He's Inspired by the image of the monkey king riding a cloud.
Vaki Stormrider
Vanara kineticist 8/monk 2 (Pathfinder RPG Advanced Race Guide 206)
LN Medium humanoid (vanara)
Hero Points 1
Init +4; Senses low-light vision, scent; Perception +20
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Defense
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AC 30, touch 24, flat-footed 25 (+5 armor, +2 deflection, +4 Dex, +1 dodge, +2 enhancement, +1 natural, +5 Wis)
hp 91 (10d8+38)
Fort +15, Ref +16, Will +13
Defensive Abilities elemental defenses (enveloping winds, shroud of water), evasion
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Offense
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Speed 30 ft., climb 30 ft., fly 60 ft. (good)
Melee unarmed strike +11/+6 (1d8-1) or
. . unarmed strike flurry of blows +10/+10/+5 (1d8-1)
Ranged charged water blast +14 (4d6+9 +4d6+4 Electricity) or
. . electric blast +12 touch (4d6+1) or
. . water blast +14 (4d6+9)
Special Attacks composite blast (charged water blast), flurry of blows, stunning fist (5/day, DC 19)
Kineticist Spell-Like Abilities (CL 0th; concentration +0)
. . Constant—feather fall
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Statistics
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Str 8, Dex 18, Con 16, Int 12, Wis 18, Cha 10
Base Atk +7; CMB +6; CMD 28
Feats Combat Stamina, Deflect Arrows, Dodge, Flyby Attack, Improved Unarmed Strike, Point-blank Shot, Precise Shot, Snatch Arrows, Stunning Fist, Weapon Finesse
Traits hurricane savvy, indomitable faith
Skills Acrobatics +10, Climb +11, Escape Artist +17 (+22 when Squeezing), Fly +20, Heal +8, Knowledge (religion) +7, Perception +20, Sense Motive +10, Stealth +24, Swim +8; Racial Modifiers +2 Acrobatics, +2 Stealth
Languages Celestial, Common, Vanaran
SQ burn, deflect arrows, dodge, elemental focus (air), feel the burn, hero points, improved unarmed strike, improved unarmed strike, improved unarmed strike, improved unarmed strike, improved unarmed strike, improved unarmed strike, infusion specialization, infusion specialization, kinetic blast, metakinesis, point-blank shot, precise shot, prehensile tail, snatch arrows, stunning fist, weapon finesse, wild talents (air cushion, expanded defense, expanded element, extended range, kinetic blade, wings of air)
Other Gear bracers of falcon's aim, cloak of elvenkind, headband of the wolf, ioun torch ioun stone, monk's robe, pouch of pixie dust, tightfit belt, backpack, bedroll, blanket, hammock, 322 gp, 3 sp
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Special Abilities
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Air Aerokineticists.
Air Cushion (Sp) Constantly under the effects of feather fall.
Burn 2/round (10 nonlethal/burn, 6/day) Burn HP to gain greater effects on your wild talents.
Charged Water Blast (Sp) Element air and water; Type composite blast; Level - ; Burn 2
Climbing (30 feet) You have a Climb speed.
Deflect Arrows (1/round) While have an empty hand, negate one ranged weapon hit you are aware of (unless from a massive weapon).
Deflect Arrows [Combat Trick] 5 stamina points to deflect while flat-footed.
Dodge [Combat Trick] Up to double Dex bonus in stamina points, increase dodge bonus from Dodge by stamina spent.
Electric Blast (Sp) You shoot an arc of electricity to shock a single foe as a ranged touch attack.
Enveloping Winds (25% +5%/burn) (Su) All ranged attacks made with physical weapons suffer a 25% miss chance against you
Evasion (Ex) If you succeed at a Reflex save for half damage, you take none instead.
Expanded Defense (Su) Form into your element as if casting elemental body.
Expanded Element (Water) (Su) Gain a second element focus.
Extended Range Kinetic blast has range of 120ft.
Feel the Burn +2 (Ex) Gain a bonus to hit and damage with your blast when you use burn.
Flight (60 feet, Good) You can fly!
Flurry of Blows +6/+6/+1 (Ex) As full-rd action, higher BAB and combo unarmed/monk wep as if two-weapon fighting.
Flyby Attack You can take a standard action during your move action while flying.
Headband of the wolf Gain Scent out to 10'
Hero Points Hero Points can be spent at any time to grant a variety of bonuses.
Hurricane Savvy Treat wind force as 1 category less, for self and ship.
Improved Unarmed Strike Unarmed strikes don't cause attacks of opportunity, and can be lethal.
Improved Unarmed Strike [Combat Trick] Up to 5 stamina points to increase nonlethal damage from Unarmed Strike by double stamina spent.
Infusion Specialization (Form Infusions) (Ex) Reduce burn cost of the selected infusion by 1 point (to a minimum of 0 points).
Ioun torch This item is merely a burned out, dull gray ioun stone with a continual flame spell cast upon it.
Kinetic Blade Create a blade of pure energy.
Kinetic Blast (Sp) The kineticist can unleash her kinetic blast at a range of 30 feet at will.
Low-Light Vision See twice as far as a human in low light, distinguishing color and detail.
Metakinesis (Su) By accepting burn you affect your kinetic blast as if using a metamagic ability.
Point-Blank Shot +1 to attack and damage rolls with ranged weapons at up to 30 feet.
Point-Blank Shot [Combat Trick] Up to 6 stamina points to increase Point-Blank range by 5 ft per stamina spent.
Precise Shot You don't get -4 to hit when shooting or throwing into melee.
Precise Shot [Combat Trick] 2 stamina points to assist an ally engaged with an enemy (+2 atk, +2 AC).
Prehensile Tail (Ex) Can retrieve small stowed objects as a swift action.
Shroud of Water (+5 armor or +3 shield, + 1/burn) (Su) As an immediate action, you surround yourself with a shroud of water, ice, or both that protects you from harm.
Snatch Arrows [Combat Trick] Have at least 1 stamina point, can throw snatched arrow at any target.
Stunning Fist (5/day, DC 19) You can stun an opponent with an unarmed attack.
Stunning Fist [Combat Trick] 5 stamina points to declare Stunning Fist after hitting.
Tightfit belt As a free action, the wearer of this brown leather belt can compress himself to fit through tight spaces as though affected by a squeeze spell for up to 10 rounds per day. When using the belt’s squeezing ability, the wearer gains a +5 circumstance bonus on Escape Artist checks. Once per day as a move action, the wearer can reduce his size by one step, as the reduce person
Water Blast (Sp) You slam a single foe with a stream of water as a ranged attack.
Weapon Finesse [Combat Trick] 2 stamina points to negate shield's armor check penalty on attack rolls.
Wings of Air (Sp) You are constantly under the effects of fly.
Given the number of games that fall apart and the length, I'm willing to do a module.
So, how close to recruitment are we?
I'm still gauging interest as stated above. I like to have a lot of choices when putting together a party. If this doesn't garner more enthusiasm I may try to run another one of the game ideas I have. I have many ideas and very limited time.
Well, by my count I show 13 people who have taken some sort of interest.
Oterisk
Daynen
grimdog73
thunderbeard
JABIII
Movin
Ashe
Philo Pharynx
The Dragon
PirateDevon
JasonX
zimmerwald1915
The GM did say "significant interest", though. Of course I know a lot of people who simply won't take significant interest in an "interest check" thread. They don't want to put in effort for something that might not ever go live. We've all seen interest checks that never panned out.
Here's my "significant interest" count.
Philo Pharynx - made a character (that will need to be revised in three days)
Daynen - gave concept
grimdog73 - said he had a concept
JABIII - gave concept
Ashe - likes gladiator-style games
The Dragon - exploring rules options
JasonX - exploring rules
That's 7 for a 4-person party. If just one of the others chimes in we'll have two options per slot.
Alright, well, thanks for the interest guys. I'll give this some further consideration as the next several days play out, to make sure I'm really interested and really have the time to make this a thing.
I've had plenty of games die in the past for lack of one or the other on my part, and I don't like wasting players' time. As stated before, if this does go live, I'll make another recruitment thread for it and link it here.
This interest check thread is now closed, while I consider.