Spell Warrior Skald: Who choose the bonus ?


Rules Questions


5 people marked this as FAQ candidate.

Hey there,

Need your opinion on the Skald's Spell Warrior main attribute, the Enhance Weapons song:

Text states:

//
At 1st level, the spell warrior can grant a +1 enhancement bonus to the weapons (including ammunition) of allies within 60 feet. At 5th level and every 5 levels thereafter, this enhancement bonus increases by 1. The maximum bonus gained is based upon the number of weapons affected: +5 to one weapon, +4 to two weapons, +3 to three weapons, or +2 to four or more weapons. Fifty pieces of ammunition count as one weapon for this purpose.

These bonuses can also be used to add any of the following weapon special abilities to the weapons enhanced by this ability: dancing, defending, distance, flaming, frost, ghost touch, keen, mighty cleaving, returning, shock, seeking, or speed. Adding these weapon special abilities consumes an amount of bonus equal to the special ability's cost (see Table: Melee Weapon Special Abilities). These enhancement bonuses and special abilities overlap with any enhancements or special abilities the weapon already has, though duplicate special abilities do not stack. If an affected weapon is not magical, at least a +1 enhancement bonus must be added before any other special abilities can be.

The bonus and special abilities granted by this raging song are determined when the song begins, and cannot be changed until the raging song ends and another is begun. These bonuses apply to only one end of a double weapon.
//

Does the skald choose the bonus for the whole party? Does each player announce the chosen bonuses when the skald starts singing?

If the skald choose the bonuses, if he's level 5 and decides to provide flaming/keen enchantments to the party, what about masterwork weapons? Are they unaffected? Do each players masterwork weapons become +1 and players choose the 2nd bonus? And finally, will this be covered in the ACG errata coming in a few days?

So far we've been playing it with the option that when the skald starts singing each player choose based on it's character's knowledge of the fight which bonus he wants to apply (Skald grants you a +2 bonus, how will you spend it? Answer may varies depending if the character is crit oriented, ranged or melee), but not every one reads it the same way, so I wish to collect a bit of various point of views on the question, and maybe an official ruling.

Dark Archive

2 people marked this as a favorite.

bonus and special abilities granted by this raging song are determined when the song begins = the skald would determine or decide

that is my understanding of the description..

Grand Lodge

I would say the bonus applied is set at the start, but by each recipient, otherwise you get strange situations, where a bonus does not apply to someone's weapon, like Seeking to melee weapons, or Keen to bludgeoning weapons.


I have the same opinion as you kinevon, that's how we've been playing it to avoid odd situation/questions for now (with people able to choose bonuses strictly affecting their weapon type only)... but this might seems a bit OP so I understand if Paizo would have us play it differently.

Another odd question, as you said you can only enchant piercing/slashing weapons with keen bonus, Skald can provide this bonus to his mates given that their weapon is already +1... does it really affect only slashing/piercing weapons in this case? We've some example of weapons which can become keen weapons when they usually aren't (bow from Dragon's Demand part 1), but that's only through specific AR.

Sczarni

In order for you to best get the attention this question deserves, and to increase the likelihood of it being answered, I've flagged it to be moved to a more appropriate forum =).


Many thanks Nefreet ! Apologies for the mistake

Scarab Sages

This is a rules question, flagged to move to rules.

That said, the bonuses are set by the Skald. The text of the ability begins with "the spell warrior can grant". If the Skald applies a enchantment that is not valid for the weapon type, it is wasted on that weapon.

Community / Forums / Pathfinder / Pathfinder First Edition / Rules Questions / Spell Warrior Skald: Who choose the bonus ? All Messageboards

Want to post a reply? Sign in.