Multiple checks and failure


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If a bane has multiple checks to defeat, such as "Combat X, then Combat Y", and I fail at the first check, do I still have to attempt the second check, even though I can't defeat the bane anymore at that time?


Hmmm... I always took it as yes


Yes you must... The critter really wants to damage you when you flee.


Yup, once you're in it you're in it.


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Ok, then. :)

Grand Lodge

Rulebook pg 11 wrote:
If multiple checks are listed on the card with “or” between them, choose one of them. If there’s a “then” between them, you’ll need to succeed at both checks sequentially; you must attempt both checks, even if you fail the first, because failure often has consequences.

It's in the rulebook under Attempting a Check.


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Indeed it is, thank you.


I think there is a base Villain in Wrath that let's you get away. He says something like if you fail at the first check... is evaded. But otherwise you have to attempt the secondary check.

Sovereign Court

There's a base villain in Wrath that says if you fail a check you die.

Veeeeery different from "evade" :P


Michael Klaus wrote:
I think there is a base Villain in Wrath that let's you get away. He says something like if you fail at the first check... is evaded. But otherwise you have to attempt the secondary check.

Yes thre is the summoner and his eidolon, if you failed to defeat the summoner, you don.t get to fight the eidolon.

Sovereign Court

Ah forgot about him.


Andrew L Klein wrote:

There's a base villain in Wrath that says if you fail a check you die.

Veeeeery different from "evade" :P

Pretty sure if you die you don't have to do the second check, so kinda like evasion :p

Sovereign Court

You evade him. By hiding six feet underground in a wooden box.

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