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Specifically I'm looking at if The kitsune's "Kitsune magic" racial trait would buff the charm person spell like ability gained from the Kitsune trickster archetype.
i believe so, why wouldn't it?
Well it specifically calls out that the boost applies to spells you cast and SLA are technically not spells right? They are spell-LIKE abilities. So I just wanted to check.
The precedent would be here:
http://paizo.com/paizo/faq/v5748nruor1fm#v5748eaic9rbq
Well it specifically calls out that the boost applies to spells you cast and SLA are technically not spells right? They are spell-LIKE abilities. So I just wanted to check.
well i mean they behave like spells in every other regard.
Usually, a spell-like ability works just like the spell of that name. A spell-like ability has no verbal, somatic, or material component, nor does it require a focus. The user activates it mentally. Armor never affects a spell-like ability's use, even if the ability resembles an arcane spell with a somatic component.A spell-like ability has a casting time of 1 standard action unless noted otherwise in the ability or spell description. In all other ways, a spell-like ability functions just like a spell.
Spell-like abilities are subject to spell resistance and dispel magic. They do not function in areas where magic is suppressed or negated. Spell-like abilities cannot be used to counterspell, nor can they be counterspelled.
If a character class grants a spell-like ability that is not based on an actual spell, the ability's effective spell level is equal to the highest-level class spell the character can cast, and is cast at the class level the ability is gained.
Some of that logic is what allowed early access to classes like Mystic Theurge which has since been retconned, I believe.
Even Augment Summoning, as Melkiador posted, applies affects to the summons, not to the spell-like ability, so it isn't that strong a precedent.
this would ruin my kitsune enchantress with my magical tails... neeeeeeoooooo
I'm confused, so no it doesn't apply?
In my opinion, there is more evidence for it applying than not applying. But as always you could ask your DM.
Well its for PFS
Well its for PFS
I'd just do it. It's almost certainly legal, and if your PFS GM disallows it, they are probably so overly strict RAW that they were going to be a pain to run with anyway.
Even though PFS requires you to stick to RAW, it still lets you do what's reasonable when RAW is questionable. PFS DMs aren't supposed to be robots.
yeah expect some table variation but there isn't a rule that says they don't apply. so likely if anything we'd need a FAQ to get this 100% sorted and i don't think it's worth the devs time.
PFS DMs aren't supposed to be robots.
PFS GM: Level 3 character became Eldritch Knight. Does not compute beep-boop.
Honestly, having PFS GMs be robots isn't necessarily a bad idea; it certainly allows for 100% compatibility among GMs.
This is question I have been trying to get FAQed for years.