[4 Winds Fantasy Gaming] AC normal, or Armor clas of defleccion?(Glory of the Faithful Spell)


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A player wants tu use this Spell Glory of the Faithful
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/3rd-party-spells/4-winds-fantasy-gaming---3rd -party-spells/glory-of-the-faithful

"You are infused with the power and glory of all those faithful to your god, both living and dead. You gain a divine bonus to attack, damage, and AC equal to your caster level."

My question is about ¿The Ac is normal ac or a defleccion Ac like the spell "Shield"

And about its stack or not whit the usual paladin Smite Evil?

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Do not allow that spell. It's insanely overpowered.

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As for your actual questions:

The regular rules don't use "divine" bonuses. As printed, it stacks with anything and everything. Even if you changed it to "sacred", it would still stack with most everything. That includes Smite Evil.

In addition to being incredibly overpowered, it's not particularly well-written.


I'm that player that he said, and the reason that I want to use that spell is because he's creating his own creatures, like a Scilla with some sorcerrers lvls and inquisitor lvls, totally it has 8 attacks, 4 bites, 4 tentacles, and not confortable with that, he use the the greater bane, a total of damage of 20d6 plus 10d10 plus 80 base damage, and as a swift action she throw a fireball that use 15d6 of fire damage, with mirror image greater as a instant action... it was only the boss... cause he use 2 colosus flesh (it has DR 10/epic, and it has an antimagic field) and 2 zombie hord and bone golems.... and at the begining of the combat.... we use some some abilities to anothers ordes... HE IS THE DEAD MASTER!! LITERALY.... O YES!!.... WITH NO TREASURE!! XDDDDDDDDD


sometimes I think that he love to kill our characters xD


o yes, I forgot something... the most of the enemies are neutral... and I use a paladin... xD troll master?...

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Kalindlara wrote:
Do not allow that spell. It's insanely overpowered.

Do not under any circumstances allow this spell.

The author didn't understand pathfinder design on many levels (use of new "divine" type, allowing +20 touch AC at level 20 is not in line with design principles.)

This spells made me look up the author (4 Winds Fantasy Gaming and Connie J. Thomson and Robert W. Thomson, with Katheryn Bauer and Sean O’Connor.) Noted. If I look at 3rd party material, I'll ignore sight unseen these sources/authors.

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DRAKHOX wrote:

A player wants tu use this Spell Glory of the Faithful

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/3rd-party-spells/4-winds-fantasy-gaming---3rd -party-spells/glory-of-the-faithful

"You are infused with the power and glory of all those faithful to your god, both living and dead. You gain a divine bonus to attack, damage, and AC equal to your caster level."

My question is about ¿The Ac is normal ac or a defleccion Ac like the spell "Shield"

And about its stack or not whit the usual paladin Smite Evil?

It's neither, as presented, it's a divine bonus, and extremely powerful because it stacks with just about everything in the game.


There is no spell even comparable to it on the 4th-level paladin spell list. I agree with everyone else that spell should not be allowed in a normal game.

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