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1. The movie is PG-13. For Episode III, that wasn't an issue for me. I didn't feel it was too violent. However, if Episode VII has the characters, for example, discuss sex, that may be an issue for letting my youngest child watch it. Should I worry about that?From IMDB's parent guide for EpVII:
Sex & Nudity
In a cantina an alien woman lounges seductively in the arms of a massive brute.
Thank you!
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So a couple of issues have been bugging me, and now that our esteemed Baron Arem Heshvaun has seen the movie, I've finally worked up the nerve to post them. Could you please answer these questions? If the answers require spoilers, you could hide them under a tag.
1. The movie is PG-13. For Episode III, that wasn't an issue for me. I didn't feel it was too violent. However, if Episode VII has the characters, for example, discuss sex, that may be an issue for letting my youngest child watch it. Should I worry about that?
2. I personally have felt a bit leery ever since I heard that title The Force Awakens. It made me think that this movie is going to "reveal" something about the nature of the Force. You know. Like Episode I revealed the midi-chlorians. Perhaps now you understand my concern.
But maybe I'm wrong. Maybe "there has been an awakening in the Force" simply means that someone rediscovered the power of the dark side, or something like that. What does "the Force awakens" mean?
Thanks in advance for your help!
How young is your youungest child?
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That 97% Fresh rating with 125+ reviews in is pretty promising.
Despite all the press and investor info saying it was about moving the brand away from icky nerds...
if you believe press and investor blurbs verbatim, I have a bridge I want to sell you.
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In 19 hours I will be starting my viewing of the Star Wars marathon that will culminate with The Force Awakens at 7pm! It's going to be hard to fall asleep right away after work so I am awake and alert through the whole thing beginning to end. Super excited!
I don't, but do you honestly believe they decided insulting their core audience was a good way to cover up needing something trademarkable? Or that they believed they needed to obfuscate wanting a trademarkable name in the first place?Despite all the press and investor info saying it was about moving the brand away from icky nerds...if you believe press and investor blurbs verbatim, I have a bridge I want to sell you.
No need to cover up something impossible to pull off. The original term was not copyrightable.
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In 19 hours I will be starting my viewing of the Star Wars marathon that will culminate with The Force Awakens at 7pm! It's going to be hard to fall asleep right away after work so I am awake and alert through the whole thing beginning to end. Super excited!
going go attempt to pull this off myself with star wars rebels and the original trilogy.
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I just came back from seeing the 13:00 C.E.T. show at a rather large cinema here. (With 1002 seats and a 142 m2 screen, the Imperial is supposed to be the world's largest Dolby Atmos theatre.) It was the first 2D show there of The Force Awakens (3D got an earlier start there around 10 o'clock or so today).
The movie delivers the goods. Many different planets, hyperspace hi-jinks, starfighter dog-fights, HUGE starships and other installations, lightsabre duels, loveable droids, exotic aliens and diverse humans, Force-users, and both tragedy and comedy. Luckily, one gets to meet the new characters and see them interact before older, well-known faces first re-appear (to the sounds of cheers and applause from the audience). While I do have some suspicions about at least one character's lucky survival off-screen, some questions about at least one character's background ("classified"!), and am wondering about one particular hug that was shown, there was no doubt whatsoever in my mind when I left the theatre that I had just spend a few hours in a galaxy far, far away.
And I get to go there again on Friday afternoon! :D
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I'm a fan of the Machete Order myself, unfortunately I don't have time for a full rewatch before 7:00 pm tomorrow.
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I'm a fan of the Machete Order myself, unfortunately I don't have time for a full rewatch before 7:00 pm tomorrow.
When it comes to order, my children have - this very morning - pointed out my hypocrisy. I keep saying "Start with Episode 4. Don't even THINK about starting with Episode 1! That was the worst of the 6!"
Yet the last time I watched Star Wars I saw 1, then 2, then 3, then 4, then 5, and finally 6.
And this week, I started watching Star Wars again, starting with 1.
Vendor - Fantasiapelit Tampere
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I'm just gonna say all spoiler-free that this movie was amazing. Go see it now. It really is great.
Last 30 minutes of the movie SPOILER:
Go see it now!
Seeing it tomorrow night. I am stoked
"are you ready for this?"
"hell yes!"
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Just back from the cinema, fairly sure it dosn't count as a spoiler to say I'm pretty chuffed with it -- on a scale of I - VI, I think it gets a V.
Vaguely spoileresque comments...
The new heroes were great
Humour was spot on
Good homages
I just didn't like the 'setting'
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Jimmy Fallon, the Roots, the cast of The Force Awakens sing "Star Wars" Medley
I love Chewbacca staring into the camera.
I just didn't like the 'setting'What does that mean ???
Where it was 30 years on in terms of the politics n factions
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Jimmy Fallon, the Roots, the cast of The Force Awakens sing "Star Wars" Medley
I love Chewbacca staring into the camera.
I still can't believe how much Harrison is involved in the promos for this.
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For those standing in line or simply trying to avoid spoilers, something interesting to watch.
Star Wars The Evolution of the Lightsaber Duel Featurette
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I just came back from seeing the 13:00 C.E.T. show at a rather large cinema here. (With 1002 seats and a 142 m2 screen, the Imperial is supposed to be the world's largest Dolby Atmos theatre.) It was the first 2D show there of The Force Awakens (3D got an earlier start there around 10 o'clock or so today).
And I get to go there again on Friday afternoon! :D
I just heard someone here is seeing the Midnight showing tonight, seeing it on Friday, Saturday, Sunday and Monday. It is people like you and her that I have to wait until after Christmas to see the movie.
There are 4 local theaters with a total of 20 screens showing the movie, and I still couldn't get tickets for opening weekend.
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It was very decent, althought not flawless. Certainly superior to the prequels, not quite as good as the OT, although not far off JEDI in quality.
My biggest complaint (SPOILER!):
Twenty minutes later they very casually mention the planet that was destroyed by name and it wasn't Coruscant, at all. But it's very low-key and a lot of the audience I was with - and from looking online quite a lot of people talking about the movie - left thinking they'd blown Coruscant away in the film.
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Not really a spoiler, but some information on a much-discussed rumoured cameo:
I just saw it at the premier. Was very disappointed. I give it 2 out of 4 stars.
The theater was full. I bought my tickets weeks in advance, got there 40 minutes early (plus there's 15 minutes of previews) and the theater was PACKED. People were wearing costumes and everything. I've never seen anything like it.
There were cheers as the opening scrawl started, and as each of the characters from the original trilogy were (re-)introduced. I was surprised and impressed with how many of our favorite old characters made a return for Episode 7.
Also, there were some ok action scenes, but nothing special. Typical JJ Abrams fare.
The movie failed for me because the plot was awful and so were the new characters. The old characters tried to make the movie work with the limited material they had available, but unfortunately 90% of the screen time was devoted to the horrible new characters.
I'll go into more detail below, but there will be MINOR SPOILERS (nothing that isn't revealed at the beginning when the main characters are introduced).
The Bad guys -- Ren, Hux, Snoke, Phasma. They all deserve the Darwin award. Yes, they are that stupid. Part of having drama in a film is having bad guys that are a threat -- the good guys must face risk or where is the thrill of action??? 30 minutes into the film I had lost all respect for the "First Order." How did the First Order manage to survive for 30 years? I'm surprised they didn't blow themselves up in 30 minutes due to the extreme incompetence of their leaders. It cheapened the victory of the heroes, argh!!!
Kinda wish they had just made a film of Timothy Zahn's Thrawn Trilogy. Yes, we'd all know the plot, but at least Thrawn was an intelligent, resourceful adversary worthy of respect.
Dameron Poe -- the Superflous hero. He's introduced at the beginning as a super-important character, and then promptly forgotten about for most of the rest of the film. So why include him at all?
BB8- The cutesy droid. Fails at comic relief, but never quite approaches the level of Jar-Jar Binks annoyingness.
Rey -- The only new character with any hope. Too bad JJ Abrams completely forgot to develop a backstory for her! I guess we'll have to hope for it in the next episode.
Finn - Imagine you're a soldier and your squad gets in a fight with some rebels. The rebels are trying their hardest to brutally murder you. Your comrades are falling all around you, their blood splattering on your uniform. These are the only comrades you've ever known.
Do you:
A) Steel your courage, stuff a clip in your blaster rifle and avenge your fallen comrades?
or
B) Chicken out and decide to join the rebels who just tried to kill you?
If you chose option A you're a credit to your unit, soldier! If you chose option B then I question how you ever made it out of Stormtrooper Bootcamp. Perhaps you'd be better suited to a career as a Hollywood filmwriter?
Finn chooses option B, so he makes no sense as a character. Even more inexplicably, he's completely useless when he's a stormtrooper, but as soon as he joins the rebels he becomes the biggest badass in the galaxy, single-handedly cutting through squads of his former comrades. Are you freakin' kidding me?!
It's a B grade action movie. I doubt I'll be rushing out to see Episode 8, if I see it at all. Sigh...
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Second, he doesn't immediately join the Resistance. He pretends to be a member to escape the life he no longer wants to be a part of. In fact, when presented with an opportunity to flee altogether, he takes it. He turns back to help the only person who's ever shown him kindness. Even then, he doesn't have an interest in the Resistance, and actively misleads them for his own purposes, to rescue the only person he's ever felt anything for. In fact, by movie's end, he still hadn't actually joined the Resistance, not really.
I agree with you, the bad guys were idiotic. Several times they walk away from a situation for no apparent reason, then they have a scene about how the thing they desperately want is still missing... so why didn't they leave anyone behind to keep looking for it? Why didn't Captain Phasma trigger an alarm? Couldn't she just use the communicator in her helmet, leave an open channel and transmit? Something?
The plot had some big holes in it.
The movie was still good though. Other than a couple of small quibbles, I found the dialogue to be mostly good and at least satisfactory/sufficient. I also found the lack of dialogue in one scene to be especially well done.
I saw it tonight. Entertaining, hell yes. some minor issues, yes. Overall B+. Certainly better than the prequels, not quite as good a Return of the Jedi. (but come on, nothing is better than the Executor crashing into Death star 2, so JJ had too high a hurdle to cross). I think I need to see it a few more times to really judge, may revise my opinion upward.
Harrison Ford really knocked it out of the park with his performance. A little hammy at times, but solidly entertaining.
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This was amazing! Blasphemy I know but probably my favorite one
My only complaint is
I saw it.
My 6 year old LOVED it. He says his new favorite bad guy is Kylo Ren.
Me...I don't know how I feel about it yet. It didn't actually hit me with all the cheers and yahoos that others feel about it. Maybe it's made for the really hard core star wars fans or something.
There were some things I felt were a little over the top, and some things that didn't really do anything for me.
Some of the dialogue was just down right...uninspiring. There were several times when Kylo Ren was talking or other villains where I was wondering...who wrote this dialogue!? It certainly does not sound like Empire did.
Finn actually did pretty well with his lines, Rey...it was off and on. Kylo Ren...was absolutely terrible in his lines most of the time. It was sort of like...huh...well I'm a California kid so let me talk like one...like you dig.
It felt REALLY out of place to me.
Other things that felt off...
A Star Killer base that NO one knew was being built by some off shot Empire guys? Really? You would think that something that big, people would know. Heck, the Empire controlled the galaxy and built Death Stars in Secret and the Rebellion STILL knew about them.
Next, and even worse...you're telling me the ENTIRE Rebel fleet was located at that exact time in ONE star system. Furthermore, as EVERYONE could see that thing coming...they didn't have enough smarts to hyperspace the heck out of there to avoid being destroyed...or at least have reserves somewhere?
Really...REALLY...how did these guys even win any battles in the first three movies if they are THAT inept?
And if one system is destroyed...the entire New Republic falls? Really? The US had Washington DC taken and sacked at one point...it remained after that. Different Capitals of Europe have fallen and many of those nations continued to fight after that.
If anything, I'd have imagined that would simply bring the full force of the Republic to bear on the First order and basically annihilate them.
If each system has a senator...even if their senators are destroyed, you'd imagine that they would have the ability to elect new ones...and on top of that...there should be a line of succession (like almost any competent government has)...which would declare out and out war after an attack like that instead of simply supporting the resistance.
Anyways, that's the part of the movie that made absolutely NO sense to me.
Also, how did Poe Dameron get off the planet? Also, did he just forget the entire reason he went back to the planet to begin with? Why didn't he seek his droid? He seems to have beaten feet back off the planet, forgetting his droid, just so he could reappear at the last minute to save the heroes. It didn't make much sense to me to tell the truth.
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This was amazing! Blasphemy I know but probably my favorite one
My only complaint is ** spoiler omitted **
I can answer your spoiler question:
Other things that felt off...
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Why wouldn't he leave the planet?
Finn was up and moving first, he made it to the settlement and it was attacked within moments. Assuming Poe was 5 minutes (or more) behind, he'd have seen the results of the attack, but not been in the middle of it. He arrives to the aftermath, asks a few questions and knows that it was Imperials who attacked and that a ship fled and made it into the atmosphere.
People in the town knew Rey had the BB unit.
People in town knew the Imperials were looking for the BB unit.
People in town knew that Rey had escaped with the ship.
It probably wouldn't have taken Poe long to figure these things out, since most likely survivors would be talking about all the stuff that had just happened that day.
Finn and Rey didn't make a hasty trip to Maz Kanata's, in fact there was at least one side trip, arriving on Han Solo's freighter. While I will admit he did arrive very timely, he also didn't arrive much later than Imperials did who had to travel at least as far.
There are plot holes, I don't think this is one of them.
The bigger plot holes are the actions of the villains and why they never follow up on anything ever. Not once do they continue searching when they haven't found what they're looking for. They never leave a contingent of troopers behind to keep searching. They don't even leave probe droids behind.
I can answer your spoiler question:
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I was thinking the same thing, but its just not working this time around.
Theater was packed, despite being the first non 3 d showing and the second showing, people in costume (jedi robes, a chewbacca footed sleeper, kids halloween stuff) , geek jokes flying back and forth, an impromptu puppet show during film set up, some rather humerous social engineering of moving people up and down and accross rows so everyone could sit with their groups that you wouldn't see outside of a geek group.
"Ok three of you here, group of six swap with the group of four from the next row up group of five swap places with the group of six carry the two..ok we got this!"
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So, am I the only one wholiked Adam Driver's role as Kylo Ren?
I thought he and Daisy Ridley were the best part of the movie honestly....and Carrie Fisher definitely disappointed. I liked John Boyega's character also...
The only part of the movie that seemed off to me was the treatment of "time". You have no idea how long things are taking. Did the entire movie take place over the course of a week? A month? A year?
The only real hole in the plot for me was that han, chewie, and fin were walking around the enemy base, wondering where Renn was and see her climbing the opposite wall. Next scene, and they just bump into each other around a corner. I got a distinct impression some sort of intervening scene was cut that could have added to the drama.
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I'm with you Imbicatus.
Also, was anyone else blown away by the cinematography of Kylo Ren on the bridge when Finn and Rey open the door and illuminate him from afar. It was such a beautiful shot, I told my wife I want it as a picture to hang in my office.
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So, am I the only one who liked Adam Driver's role as Kylo Ren?
Not actually sure what that means.
I've heard nothing but praise and gushing for Adam Driver and the Kylo Ren character. The entire movie seems to be getting pretty much universal praise. Of course there were small little issues with the movie (Few if any movies are perfect, after all) but from everything I've seen or heard or read ... the movie is great and is going to be a huge record-breaking success!
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I also really enjoyed Adam Driver's performance. I thought his character was well-done, honestly.
@Marc Radle Ok, well maybe I read a few posts in this thread and thought "Man, I really liked what he did....how could anyone have such a wildly different opinion on that." Perhaps that was a bit of an overreaction on my part. Now that I've read a bit more thoroughly(reviews and more on the thread) I think that yes, most people are impressed with him.