Any chance of getting proficiency with shuriken baked in rather than having to spend a feat on Exotic Weapon Proficiency?
come on... batman had to spend a feat for that and you know it!
Purple Dragon Knight wrote: come on... batman had to spend a feat for that and you know it! No, Batman is an Avenger//Ninja gestalt, he got proficiency from the ninja levels.
I think he's just a ninja... why would he multiclass?
Purple Dragon Knight wrote: I think he's just a ninja... why would he multiclass? He'd probably also pick up some Investigator
He's the World's Greatest Detective, not the World's Greatest Ninja. He's an Investigator first and foremost, though replace all of the alchemy with tech gadgets. Then gestalt ninja >_>
Not really seeing the ninja by Pathfinder class's standards.
He doesn't really do any of the ki mystical stuff.
Slayer fits him better, thematically. With a dash of Brawler.
I would like to see our avenger class be able to combine these aspects (it kinda can but not to full effect).
Maybe signature weapon talent can include proficiency?
Myrryr wrote: He's the World's Greatest Detective, not the World's Greatest Ninja. He's an Investigator first and foremost, though replace all of the alchemy with tech gadgets. Then gestalt ninja >_> Tim Drake was a better detective.
ok then... he's an UNCHAINED ROGUE with the ninja trick rogue talent, underhanded talent, surprise attack talent, and if you want him to rock exploding batarangs, the bomber rogue talent from Ranged Tactics Toolbox.
...oh, and he's got the Coax Information unchained rogue talent, for when he screams, "WHERE'S HARVEY DENT!" in people's faces.
master_marshmallow wrote: Not really seeing the ninja by Pathfinder class's standards.
He doesn't really do any of the ki mystical stuff.
Slayer fits him better, thematically. With a dash of Brawler.
I would like to see our avenger class be able to combine these aspects (it kinda can but not to full effect).
Maybe signature weapon talent can include proficiency?
This is reasonable, imo. The source media is full of people who specialize in all kinds of crazy weapons.
He's actually a third party class called "The G@@@@@m Batman!" ;)
He is tough to properly build while still being as effective as he seems in media. I wouldn't mind signature weapon also granting proficiency, and thus, delaying when you get weapon focus.
If you take the talent at 2nd, you are proficient or Focused if already proficient. At 4th you are focused if the talent granted proficiency. The rest can be the same.
You don't need shuriken, just throw Chakram! I'd believe those make a believable faux batarang.
Actually, you can make them just fine as Darts or Thrown Daggers.
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he's a Gestalt 20th level fighter and 20th level brawler with 10 mythic tiers and several times WBL, because he's the g&%&#+n batman.
I don't think PF classes are all that applicable to characters from fiction. The abilities provided by them are much too specific and limited to emulate most popular characters. However, shuriken proficiency should come baked in, they're not even all that strong
ChrisLKimball wrote: You don't need shuriken, just throw Chakram! I'd believe those make a believable faux batarang. Yep, I'd go with bat-shaped Chakrams as well. Vigilantes already get Martial Weapon Proficiency, so that would work.
master_marshmallow wrote: Myrryr wrote: He's the World's Greatest Detective, not the World's Greatest Ninja. He's an Investigator first and foremost, though replace all of the alchemy with tech gadgets. Then gestalt ninja >_> Tim Drake was a better detective. You win. He really really is..
also honestly speaking it woudl be amazing if they somehow got a "choose your vigilante weapon" thing.
cause I SOOO want a bolas user, to fit in with the nontlethal. Throwing bolas as a stalker is just plain neat sounding.
In general the cooler more unique throwing weapons.. are just impossible to use. Because it costs a feat and feats are soo weighty that using it like that is usually a bad idea.. Really wish they just had talents for granting prof in one type of weapon of any kind. So anyone could use any weapon.. but I totally understand why they don't.. It would just be a lot more fun and can make unique things.
Like.. I don't think any class ever knows bolas usage innately. Except bounty hunter slayer.
Signature weapon also granting the proficiency seems like a very attractive option and would certainly allow for a great deal of customization in vigilantes; it also doesn't have any balance problems that I can see, as it's basically the same as what war priests get
djones wrote: Signature weapon also granting the proficiency seems like a very attractive option and would certainly allow for a great deal of customization in vigilantes; it also doesn't have any balance problems that I can see, as it's basically the same as what war priests get This is a good idea.
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They have him trained as a Samurai. The pathfinder Samurai (ronin/knighterrent) , i would also think be perfect for the character.
Batarang = Boomerang exotic feat in the APG.
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