KestrelZ |
They appear where the caster designates them to, so long as they appear in range of the spell.
You may want to rule that they cannot appear in an occupied square or a bunch of shenanigans happen (I summon a dinosaur to drop on the opponent's head kind of shenanigans).
Manwolf |
Hi,
with the summon monster spells or allies, if multiple monsters are summoned at the same time, it's last all appear in the same box or the caster can choose independently their appearance slots anywhere spells in the coverage area?
Thank you in advance for your help.
Unless the creatures' size permits them to occupy the same square, they can't appear in the same square. Since the summon spells don't specifically address where multiple creatures appear, the creatures can appear anywhere within the range of the spell.
Derek Vande Brake |
They appear where the caster designates them to, so long as they appear in range of the spell.
You may want to rule that they cannot appear in an occupied square or a bunch of shenanigans happen (I summon a dinosaur to drop on the opponent's head kind of shenanigans).
This actually doesn't work, since the spell says they have to be summoned onto a surface that supports them.
But yeah, you can otherwise place them anywhere in range. Really makes them strategically useful even at low levels. Spending a full round to cast a spell that gets 1 attack seems like a poor choice, but spending a full round to cast a spell that gets 1 attack, and provides an ally flanking, is a bit better bargain. Especially if that ally is a rogue.
DM_Blake |
BadMJ wrote:Unless the creatures' size permits them to occupy the same square, they can't appear in the same square. Since the summon spells don't specifically address where multiple creatures appear, the creatures can appear anywhere within the range of the spell.Hi,
with the summon monster spells or allies, if multiple monsters are summoned at the same time, it's last all appear in the same box or the caster can choose independently their appearance slots anywhere spells in the coverage area?
Thank you in advance for your help.
Actually, they could, since the rules only prohibit ending their movement in the same square. So it could be an interesting visual - summon 4 dire lions that appear, one after the other, in the same square, each one leaping into battle a fraction of a second before the next one appears. In game terms, same square, even though only one really exists there at any moment (moment = fraction of the round).
Derek Vande Brake |
Manwolf wrote:Actually, they could, since the rules only prohibit ending their movement in the same square. So it could be an interesting visual - summon 4 dire lions that appear, one after the other, in the same square, each one leaping into battle a fraction of a second before the next one appears. In game terms, same square, even though only one really exists there at any moment (moment = fraction of the round).BadMJ wrote:Unless the creatures' size permits them to occupy the same square, they can't appear in the same square. Since the summon spells don't specifically address where multiple creatures appear, the creatures can appear anywhere within the range of the spell.Hi,
with the summon monster spells or allies, if multiple monsters are summoned at the same time, it's last all appear in the same box or the caster can choose independently their appearance slots anywhere spells in the coverage area?
Thank you in advance for your help.
This may be true. But how would this be beneficial? At best they'll be taking 5 foot steps, and thus wind up in a different location anyhow before other actions. At worst, they'll have to take move actions, possibly provoking AoO and losing half their turn, before winding up in different spots. Is there a condition where you wouldn't want to just summon multiple creatures to different spots?
EDIT: Actually, wait... since it isn't in the middle of a move, could they attack, then move? In which case it might be beneficial after all under certain conditions...